Sac's 1/22 Mock (Official Underclassman Draft)

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by ClayWhit

Yes, certainly Chiefs history is proof of this.

The belief anyway. Maybe Sackofpoo is really King Carl?

[Chris Meck]

I am football jesus, hear me roar.

I am no noob. I was here before almost all of you. I'm not as into the dick jokes, fart jokes, and general childishness as some folks so I mostly lurk.

In my opinion, we led the league in rushing because in addition to Jamaal Charles being very, very damned fast, he's also very quick and shifty. Most of his yards came outside the tackles either on sweeps or broken plays. He can change direction on a dime and be moving full speed like very few backs you'll ever see. This is why Thomas Jones had a rather pedestrian ypc. He doesn't suck, he just requires actual blocking to create an actual hole. Our line was fair at doing that outside, and horrible at running between the tackles. I don't know what to tell you if you didn't see it that way, seems pretty obvious to me.
Wiegmann can pull well, but is way too small to put a helmet on a DT and move him. That's just a fact. He's also 38. This is also a fact. These two facts, in my opinion, would make C a real priority. As further evidence to my opinion-note our inability to EVER pick up one freaking yard on a 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1 without resorting to either trickery or trying to pass.

Now on a 3rd and 8, we might pick up 20 on a Charles sweep left. When we needed one damned yard, we could rarely get it.

Therefore, I surmise that we are not physical enough inside, starting at C where Wiegmann probably weighs about 250 late in the season.

YMMV,

Football Jesus.

nyuck, nyuck.

p.s.-I would like to pick up serviceable upgrades at NT, WR, maybe OLB, and perhaps even C in free agency and then just draft BAA. That may not be possible looking at the FA lists.

Chris

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I am football jesus, hear me roar.

I am no noob. I was here before almost all of you. I'm not as into the dick jokes, fart jokes, and general childishness as some folks so I mostly lurk.

In my opinion, we led the league in rushing because in addition to Jamaal Charles being very, very damned fast, he's also very quick and shifty. Most of his yards came outside the tackles either on sweeps or broken plays. He can change direction on a dime and be moving full speed like very few backs you'll ever see. This is why Thomas Jones had a rather pedestrian ypc. He doesn't suck, he just requires actual blocking to create an actual hole. Our line was fair at doing that outside, and horrible at running between the tackles. I don't know what to tell you if you didn't see it that way, seems pretty obvious to me.
Wiegmann can pull well, but is way too small to put a helmet on a DT and move him. That's just a fact. He's also 38. This is also a fact. These two facts, in my opinion, would make C a real priority. As further evidence to my opinion-note our inability to EVER pick up one freaking yard on a 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1 without resorting to either trickery or trying to pass.

Now on a 3rd and 8, we might pick up 20 on a Charles sweep left. When we needed one damned yard, we could rarely get it.

Therefore, I surmise that we are not physical enough inside, starting at C where Wiegmann probably weighs about 250 late in the season.

YMMV,

Football Jesus.

nyuck, nyuck.

p.s.-I would like to pick up serviceable upgrades at NT, WR, maybe OLB, and perhaps even C in free agency and then just draft BAA. That may not be possible looking at the FA lists.

Chris

This to the whole darn post! Our inability to run on 3rd/4th and short is the absolute biggest weakness of this team IMO. We have several other weaknesses that need to be addressed, but this one... first and foremost... has to be taken care of.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by Coogs

This to the whole darn post! Our inability to run on 3rd/4th and short is the absolute biggest weakness of this team IMO. We have several other weaknesses that need to be addressed, but this one... first and foremost... has to be taken care of.

It cost the Jets yesterday.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

It cost the Jets yesterday.

Yes it did. And even though we led the NFL in rushing, it really cost us as well. I find it kind of ironic that we led the NFL in rushing, but could not run it for 1 yard to save our life.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by Coogs

Yes it did. And even though we led the NFL in rushing, it really cost us as well. I find it kind of ironic that we led the NFL in rushing, but could not run it for 1 yard to save our life.

That's why I wouldn't completely flip out if KC used the 21st pick on an OL. It's not ideal, but if you get someone who can consistently move the pile, it would be great.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by Coogs

Yes it did. And even though we led the NFL in rushing, it really cost us as well. I find it kind of ironic that we led the NFL in rushing, but could not run it for 1 yard to save our life.

It's because Charles is such a playmaker. He made our line look better then it is. We could draft Pouncey and have him work at both C and G. If he can become our C then great. If he can't and he's a G then great. I bet he could really learn alot from Waters, Weigman and Lilja.


PhilFree

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

It cost the Jets yesterday.

Not running with Shonn Greene was the first mistake.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Not running with Shonn Greene was the first mistake.

Not trying to punch it in on the two previous plays was the first mistake.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by milkman

Not trying to punch it in on the two previous plays was the first mistake.

Especially since both Albert and Richardson are both good run blockers. Which Saccopoo apparently does not see. The problem with our running game is right up the gut. Right where Saccopoo says our best o-lineman plays.

[suds79]

Originally Posted by Coogs

This to the whole darn post! Our inability to run on 3rd/4th and short is the absolute biggest weakness of this team IMO. We have several other weaknesses that need to be addressed, but this one... first and foremost... has to be taken care of.

Agreed with the inability to run on short yardage. Just my thoughts.

1st - Our power back in Thomas Jones is well beyond his better years. Get a young bigger back, and the problem would be largely solved.

2nd - I wonder if we will always have this problem. Todd & Scott apparently like lean players and this drives me crazy sometimes.

Passed on Cody twice last year. I'm sure weight was an issue. But before I go off on a tangent there, look at our O-line. Where's the beef?

LT Albert - 6'5 316 (convinced Branden to slim down)
LG Waters - 6'3 320
C Wiegmann - 6'2 285 (who we know is weak at the point of attack)
RG Lilja - 6'2 290
RT Richardson - 6'6 319 (used to weigh much more than this in college) again asked to slim down)

Now lets compare to Pittsburgh. A team that just ran all over the Jets.

LT - 318 lbs
LG - 344 lbs
C - 304
RG - 325 lbs
RT - 338 lbs

Pretty big difference. Just sayin. Something to think about.

Oh yes before I forget. Jon Asamoah who will end up replacing Waters someday. 6'4 305. Getting even smaller.

[odendin]

Originally Posted by suds79

Agreed with the inability to run on short yardage. Just my thoughts.

1st - Our power back in Thomas Jones is well beyond his better years. Get a young bigger back, and the problem would be largely solved.

2nd - I wonder if we will always have this problem. Todd & Scott apparently like lean players and this drives me crazy sometimes.

Passed on Cody twice last year. I'm sure weight was an issue. But before I go off on a tangent there, look at our O-line. Where's the beef?

LT Albert - 6'5 316 (convinced Branden to slim down)
LG Waters - 6'3 320
C Wiegmann - 6'2 285 (who we know is weak at the point of attack)
RG Lilja - 6'2 290
RT Richardson - 6'6 319 (used to weigh much more than this in college) again asked to slim down)

Now lets compare to Pittsburgh. A team that just ran all over the Jets.

LT - 318 lbs
LG - 344 lbs
C - 304
RG - 325 lbs
RT - 338 lbs

Pretty big difference. Just sayin. Something to think about.

Oh yes before I forget. Jon Asamoah who will end up replacing Waters someday. 6'4 305. Getting even smaller.

You're comparing 2 blocking styles *zone*power*.
And we were still the leading rushing team in the league.

We lost because Flacco tore us apart. We couldn't stop him. Not having someone opposite Hali allowed Flac to sidestep Hali and it gave him so much more time to just wait for something to open in our zone coverage.

And Baltimore, using a power blocking scheme, didn't help Rice has he was held to.. what? 1.9 ypc in the first half and we had 4 or 5 sacks?

I can't wait to see how Cameron Sheffield plays next year. Kiper might have to redo his redid draft grade for us.