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Chiefs cuts

Roster cuts starting to trickle in





The list of confirmed roster cuts is at seven. Fullback Shane Bannon, tight end Charlie Gantt, offensive linemen Chris Harr and Mike Ingersoll, linebackers Pierre Walters and Micah Johnson and defensive back Reshard Langford have been informed they will be released.

Bannon was the Chiefs' seventh-round draft pick this year.

I'm aware of the report that Tony Moeaki is going on IR after injuring his knee against Green Bay. I'm waiting on



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Partial list of Chiefs cuts: http://chiefsblog.kansascity.com/?q=node/1795



http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article...4-731948e65e66

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Old 09-03-2011, 05:08 PM   #76
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Wondering why Copper, Washington, & Battle are still on the team.

Glad Lawrence is finally gone tho.
Special Teams. No other reason.
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Old 09-03-2011, 05:08 PM   #77
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Old 09-03-2011, 05:10 PM   #78
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Old 09-03-2011, 05:10 PM   #79
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Dude did absolutely nothing to improve from year 1 to 2.

As far as I'm concerned, he can die in a fire. We don't need him.
Both Colbert and Copper are 29+ in age and have reached there ceiling.Tucker is younger and is not anywhere near what could be his ceiling. He is just as capable as Copper on ST and Colbert is just the most reeruned pick up ever. **** Copper I'm tired of his ST play always getting him by every year and the mediocrity he shows at the receiving position.
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Old 09-03-2011, 05:10 PM   #80
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I am assuming Washington and Copper had no competition at gunners on special teams, so they were kind of locks for that reason even if they suck garbage at their natural positions they are listed
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Old 09-03-2011, 05:24 PM   #81
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Both Colbert and Copper are 29+ in age and have reached there ceiling.Tucker is younger and is not anywhere near what could be his ceiling.
In order for him to approach his ceiling he's got to start getting better. He didn't. There's no reason at all to expect that he will. It's not like we cut Joe Horn or anything.

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He is just as capable as Copper on ST
Now you're just making shit up. What's next? If the Chiefs had kept Verran Tucker, you would have won the lottery?
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and Colbert is just the most reeruned pick up ever.
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I don't speak fluent reerun, but I'll try to decipher what you wrote.

Copper never "gets by". He is and has always been a lock to make the roster in all of Haley's seasons due to his ability on special teams. That's why he's on the roster and why he won't be taken out unless we find a younger player more adept at special teams than he is. His role on the team has never been molded as a 4th WR or go-to guy. He's a veteran who does his job, and sometimes contributes on offense as a blocking WR. If he gets lucky, he will get a few table scraps here and there.

Quit dreaming of the Chiefs finding the next Miles Austin. Tucker is not that guy. Neither will it be any of their undrafted receivers for a long time. That kind of player is a RARITY. It doesn't happen very ****ing often. Get used to it. Copper is actually worth something to the team. Therefore, he stays.
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Old 09-03-2011, 05:32 PM   #82
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Wondering why Copper, Washington, & Battle are still on the team.

Glad Lawrence is finally gone tho.
The ONLY reason these scrubs are on the team is because of their special teams contribution. If it were up to me, Copper would have rode a Greyhound back to KC to pack up his shit after his Green Bay stone hand performance. I don't give a flying **** if your good on special teams if you blow chunks when called upon to perform at your designated position. Battle isn't terrible at HB, but he HAS to grip the damn football like it's his mothers urn. Washington makes the team by default because we have no depth at all worth a crap, which makes signing BOTH Flowers and Carr that much more important going into next years draft.
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Old 09-03-2011, 05:34 PM   #83
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CHIEFS ANNOUNCE ROSTER MOVES
By PR Staff Posted 31 minutes ago

The Kansas City Chiefs place the following players on waivers:

Harold Ayodele--NT--Emporia State
Shane Bannon--FB--Yale
Justin Cole--LB--San Jose State
Mike Cox--FB--Georgia Tech
Dion Gales--D--Troy
Charlie Gantt--TE--Michigan State
Bobby Greenwood--DT--Alabama
Chris Harr--G--Chattanooga
Darryl Harris--G--Mississippi
Jeremy Horne--WR--Massachusetts
Mike Ingersoll--T--North Carolina
Micah Johnson--LB--Kentucky
Amara Kamara--LB--Temple
Reshard Langford--S--Vanderbilt
Quinten Lawrence--WR--McNeese State
Butch Lewis--G--Southern California
Zeke Markshausen--WR--Northwestern
David Mims--T--Virginia Union
Luke Patterson--DE--Texas A&M
Ricky Price--DB--Oklahoma State
Cody Slate--TE--Marshall
Anthony Toribio --NT--Carson-Newman
Verran Tucker--WR--California
Pierre Walters--LB--Eastern Illinois
Demond Washington--DB--Auburn

The Kansas City Chiefs place the following players on Injured Reserve:

Gabe Miller--LB--Oregon State
Tony Moeaki--TE--Iowa
My main surprises. Also, we're down to 52 players right now, so expect some movement.
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Old 09-03-2011, 05:37 PM   #84
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My main surprises. Also, we're down to 52 players right now, so expect some movement.
chiefs are at 53 not 52
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Old 09-03-2011, 05:38 PM   #85
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I don't expect Bair to stick on the 53 very long. They need another OL like a combo G/C like Nick McDonald from GB or Zane Taylor from the Jets, both who got waived. Possibly Lemuel JeanPierre who was w/KC last year until the cutdown and went on to Seattle's PS. Haven't seen their cuts yet but it's a safe bet since Cable took over the OL and switched it over to a bigger OL power scheme and Lem JP fits the zone system like KC runs.

It's pretty rare to see them keep 8 DL. Sometimes if they got a guy like Bair who they really want to keep and think he won't clear waivers they keep them on the 53 for a few days or even weeks until teams establish their PS and then waive him. Teams do that if they are paranoid enough he won't clear. Then if he does he would get a salary pretty close to that he would have if he stayed on the 53 b/c they don't have a max on PS player contracts. They get them to stick around because of that contract flexibility when teams offer to sign them off the PS onto another teams roster.

Just a guess anyway.
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Old 09-03-2011, 05:39 PM   #86
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In order for him to approach his ceiling he's got to start getting better. He didn't. There's no reason at all to expect that he will. It's not like we cut Joe Horn or anything.


Now you're just making shit up. What's next? If the Chiefs had kept Verran Tucker, you would have won the lottery?
Apparently not.
I don't speak fluent reerun, but I'll try to decipher what you wrote.

Copper never "gets by". He is and has always been a lock to make the roster in all of Haley's seasons due to his ability on special teams. That's why he's on the roster and why he won't be taken out unless we find a younger player more adept at special teams than he is. His role on the team has never been molded as a 4th WR or go-to guy. He's a veteran who does his job, and sometimes contributes on offense as a blocking WR. If he gets lucky, he will get a few table scraps here and there.

Quit dreaming of the Chiefs finding the next Miles Austin. Tucker is not that guy. Neither will it be any of their undrafted receivers for a long time. That kind of player is a RARITY. It doesn't happen very ****ing often. Get used to it. Copper is actually worth something to the team. Therefore, he stays
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Copper is nails on ST. Thats why he's on the team. Why do so many of you not get this?
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Old 09-03-2011, 06:00 PM   #88
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My thinking was I didn't want to see all 3 of Urban, Colbert, and Copper. 2 but not all 3. I figured Copper was safe but thought if they could choose either Urban or Colbert and keep Tucker that would be the best way to go. Tucker was playing very well as a gunner and had like 14 tackles on sp. teams in 11 games. Didn't look like a future star or anything close to it as a WR but made progress when taking over for Chambers.

This pre season it looked like he did improve as a WR getting separation and showed a little quick twitch after the catch. Had some troubles w/drops but he sure wasn't the only one. I just thought he deserved one of the last 2 spots and could take over Copper's role fulltime in the next year or 2 when he slows down.

Don't get to see the practices and all that obviously. Plus with what they kept at TE i don't expect them to catch too many balls with who they have now. Don't even know when O'Connell will return from injury and he is the most athletic pass catcher they have at the moment. That could explain only devoting 1 of the 6 WR spots to a special teamer.

I think Horne will most likely clear waivers and be a decent guy to develop. It's not out of the question Tucker makes it back to the PS either. Just depends on what teams needs are.
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Old 09-03-2011, 06:01 PM   #89
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In order for him to approach his ceiling he's got to start getting better. He didn't. There's no reason at all to expect that he will. It's not like we cut Joe Horn or anything.
You can't show your ceiling unless your given a chance. One rookie season isn't much of a chance is it?


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Now you're just making shit up. What's next? If the Chiefs had kept Verran Tucker, you would have won the SuperBowl?
Apparently not.
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Copper never "gets by". He is and has always been a lock to make the roster in all of Haley's seasons due to his ability on special teams. That's why he's on the roster and why he won't be taken out unless we find a younger player more adept at special teams than he is. His role on the team has never been molded as a 4th WR or go-to guy. He's a veteran who does his job on special teams, and sometimes contributes on offense as a blocking WR. If he gets lucky, he will get a few table scraps here and there.
Sounds like he does "get by". The point is special teams has now become far less important. Which means Copper's value has decreased immensely. We haven't even seen what Tucker can do.

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Quit dreaming of the Chiefs finding the next Miles Austin. It's not in Tucker and it won't be in any of their undrafted receivers for a long time. That kind of player is a RARITY. It doesn't happen very ****ing often. Get used to it. Copper is actually worth something to the team. Therefore, he stays.
Miles Austin didn't do jack shit till his 4th NFL season and was literally handed the number one receiving spot with T.O's departure and Romo losing confidence in Williams. Your receiving corp will impact you more then a special teams god. Being good on special teams and sucking ass at your designated position is like being the king of shit. You're still shit. Copper can be replaced and that's that. Simply put, Special teams don't win superbowls.
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