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Old 09-29-2011, 12:55 PM  
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How will you react if the NBA cancels its season?
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It doesn’t necessarily matter what NBA commissioner David Stern meant when he said on Wednesday that the upcoming weekend of negotiations between players and the league would determine “whether they can either have a season or not have a season.” Maybe it was a threat, as it sure seemed to be—a grand warning that if they did not accede to a deal, players would miss out on an entire year of salary. But the league is insisting it was not a threat, so maybe it wasn’t.

It’s not really important, though, because we don’t need any pronouncements from Stern to notice that the pages are slipping away on the NBA’s calendar, and with both sides reporting on Wednesday that no progress had been made, at the very least, the beginning of the season is in jeopardy.


The sides will meet again on Friday, and considering it will take about two weeks to iron out the details of a collective bargaining agreement, it’s clear that without significant movement this weekend, the season won’t start on time on Nov. 1. During the 1998 lockout, the league started canceling regular-season games on October 13, and that timeline should hold up this time around.

Canceling the season is still an option, but it’s on the back-burner. There are some who believe that once some games are missed, owners will be willing to axe the whole season, as the NHL did in ’05. But bear in mind, losing an entire season would not just be a hit to the players. It would be a big hit to the owners, too. There is a provision in the league’s television contract that pays the league even in the event of lost games, something that surely increases the owners’ bargaining power in the early stages of a lockout. Owners will still be feeding from their deepest trough, while players miss paychecks.

There is a catch, though—if the entire season is canceled, the owners will have to return the television money, plus interest. The threat of the season being canceled can be arrived at just by looking at the calendar and noting the lack of progress the two sides have made. But there would be no point to a preemptive canceling of the season on Stern’s part.

SI.com’s Sam Amick reports that Stern has laid out a Jan. 7 drop-dead date for cancellation of the season. That was the same deadline in ’99, when a scattered and shortened 50-game season began on February 5—with very negative results. Attendance fell by 2.2 percent, television ratings fell sharply and NBA Finals ratings went from 18.7 to 11.3. That was largely because of the retirement of Michael Jordan and the breakup of the Bulls, but still, it took a long time for the NBA to recover its popularity.

The league last season regained its relevance among fans. Players have a lot at stake in the case of a canceled season. But while owners might be in a better financial position to withstand a long lockout, they saw the NBA finally climb out of its post-Jordan doldrums, and they have a lot at stake here, too.

A canceled season is still a possibility. But we’re a long way from that point.
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Old 09-29-2011, 02:43 PM   #106
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Finals got a 17.4 rating this year which was 3rd best of all time. Of course having San Antonio as the best team after the Jordan years really didn't help ratings at all. Small market and a boring team didn't help the NBA at all.
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Old 09-29-2011, 02:43 PM   #107
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Like I said, the NBA ratings went downhill after MJ and have never gone back to the level they were.
They did this year.
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Old 09-29-2011, 02:44 PM   #108
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Old 09-29-2011, 02:47 PM   #109
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They did this year.
Table of NBA Finals average Nielsen ratings since 1976
Net. Year Series Rating
CBS 1976 Boston Celtics 4, Phoenix Suns 2 11.5
CBS 1977 Portland Trail Blazers 4, Philadelphia 76ers 2 12.7
CBS 1978 Washington Bullets 4, Seattle Supersonics 3 9.9
CBS 1979 Seattle Supersonics 4, Washington Bullets 1 7.2
CBS 1980 Los Angeles Lakers 4, Philadelphia 76ers 2 8.0
CBS 1981 Boston Celtics 4, Houston Rockets 2 6.7
CBS 1982 Los Angeles Lakers 4, Philadelphia 76ers 2 13.0
CBS 1983 Philadelphia 76ers 4, Los Angeles Lakers 0 12.3
CBS 1984 Boston Celtics 4, Los Angeles Lakers 3 12.3
CBS 1985 Los Angeles Lakers 4, Boston Celtics 2 13.7
CBS 1986 Boston Celtics 4, Houston Rockets 2 14.1
CBS 1987 Los Angeles Lakers 4, Boston Celtics 2 15.9
CBS 1988 Los Angeles Lakers 4, Detroit Pistons 3 15.4
CBS 1989 Detroit Pistons 4, Los Angeles Lakers 0 15.1
CBS 1990 Detroit Pistons 4, Portland Trail Blazers 1 12.3
NBC 1991 Chicago Bulls 4, Los Angeles Lakers 1 15.8
NBC 1992 Chicago Bulls 4, Portland Trail Blazers 2 14.2
NBC 1993 Chicago Bulls 4, Phoenix Suns 2 17.9
NBC 1994 Houston Rockets 4, New York Knicks 3 12.4
NBC 1995 Houston Rockets 4, Orlando Magic 0 13.9
NBC 1996 Chicago Bulls 4, Seattle Supersonics 2 16.7
NBC 1997 Chicago Bulls 4, Utah Jazz 2 16.8
NBC 1998 Chicago Bulls 4, Utah Jazz 2 18.7
NBC 1999 San Antonio Spurs 4, New York Knicks 1 11.3
NBC 2000 Los Angeles Lakers 4, Indiana Pacers 2 11.6
NBC 2001 Los Angeles Lakers 4, Philadelphia 76ers 1 12.1
NBC 2002 Los Angeles Lakers 4, New Jersey Nets 0 10.2
ABC 2003 San Antonio Spurs 4, New Jersey Nets 2 6.5
ABC 2004 Detroit Pistons 4, Los Angeles Lakers 1 11.5
ABC 2005 San Antonio Spurs 4, Detroit Pistons 3 8.2
ABC 2006 Miami Heat 4, Dallas Mavericks 2 8.5
ABC 2007 San Antonio Spurs 4, Cleveland Cavaliers 0 6.2
ABC 2008 Boston Celtics 4, Los Angeles Lakers 2 9.3
ABC 2009 Los Angeles Lakers 4, Orlando Magic 1 8.4
ABC 2010 Los Angeles Lakers 4, Boston Celtics 3 10.6
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Old 09-29-2011, 02:50 PM   #110
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Like I said, the NBA ratings went downhill after MJ and have never gone back to the level they were.
No but this year they were close and they had their most successful season in its history. So the league isn't dead like you said it was.
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Old 09-29-2011, 02:52 PM   #111
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I haven't been following the labor situation too closely but does anyone actually believe Stern would pull the plug on the entire season...or is this just a huge bluff?

I was talking with a co-worker the other night about this the other night and I somewhat jokingly said I thought the NBA would lose TWO seasons over this....who knows....
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Old 09-29-2011, 02:55 PM   #112
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Trouble with the NBA is with the owners. The league has had quite a few new owners and they aren't able to recoop financially. They want a league that can be stable financially more than anything with a hardcap.
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Old 09-29-2011, 02:55 PM   #113
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Old 09-29-2011, 02:57 PM   #114
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i enjoy the playoffs, but wouldn't notice or care otherwise





no even cares about the NBA strike...the nfl strike was covered like the O J Simpson trial
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I love how this thread is full of people negatively commenting on the NBA who admittedly haven't watched a game since the Jordan era. Talk about uninformed opinions.

I've given up on the idea of the NBA catching on in KC. Never will happen. College basketball is too big around here. And that's fine. It's big everywhere else.

I would miss it. Nothing else to watch that time of year anyways.

However, once they do get the salary structure solved, I think the game could be even better.
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I haven't been following the labor situation too closely but does anyone actually believe Stern would pull the plug on the entire season...or is this just a huge bluff?

I was talking with a co-worker the other night about this the other night and I somewhat jokingly said I thought the NBA would lose TWO seasons over this....who knows....
I think right now it is a bluff but maybe a month from now it won't be.
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No but this year they were close and they had their most successful season in its history. So the league isn't dead like you said it was.
I son't contend the NBA is dead, just that the product isn't what it used to be and the rating reflect that. Look at the last ten years and tell me differently.
This has been the most succesful year in NBA history? By what measure?
Tell that to the owners who are losing money.
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Mainly. There are some mexicans and whites scattered in there too.
Are you pretending that the black population is not the demographic to which the NBA appeals and targets?
I think I'm being trolled, but here's the demographic breakdown for New York City which would be the largest urban population in the US.

White alone - 2,961,851 (35.3%)
Hispanic - 2,315,041 (27.6%)
Black alone - 1,931,723 (23.0%)
Asian alone - 998,081 (11.9%)
Two or more races - 106,570 (1.3%)
Other race alone - 61,585 (0.7%)
American Indian alone - 14,355 (0.2%)
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone - 2,675 (0.03%)

http://www.city-data.com/races/races...-New-York.html

As for it being a black thing, the black viewership in the NBA was around 10% of the total viewership. In comparison, it's like 12-15% of the total for the NFL.
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i enjoy the playoffs, but wouldn't notice or care otherwise


This.


Playoffs are enjoyable, but the rest is a pile.
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