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Old 10-10-2011, 09:27 PM   #1
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I'll call it. I think Haley is gonna be a hell of a head coach. I hope it's here.
I completely agree. So he made a bad decision how to deal with the shorted off season. I think Pioli will keep him around.
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Old 10-10-2011, 09:33 PM   #2
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I completely agree. So he made a bad decision how to deal with the shorted off season. I think Pioli will keep him around.
So we're going to extend a coach who had two horrible losing seasons in three years?

No.
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Old 10-10-2011, 09:36 PM   #3
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So we're going to extend a coach who had two horrible losing seasons in three years?

No.
Yep we are. And this isn't going to be a horrible losing season.
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Old 10-10-2011, 09:37 PM   #4
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So we're going to extend a coach who had two horrible losing seasons in three years?

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You expected a winning season in 2009?
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Old 10-10-2011, 09:50 PM   #5
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You expected a winning season in 2009?
I don't know many that thought we'd have a winning season in 2010.
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Old 10-11-2011, 12:39 PM   #6
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I don't know many that thought we'd have a winning season in 2010.
I thought they might go 8-8 and was roundly mocked.
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Old 10-10-2011, 09:40 PM   #7
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So we're going to extend a coach who had two horrible losing seasons in three years?

No.
As much as I am for us getting Luck, it's a little early to call this a "horrible losing season." If Pioli looks at a 2-3 record and fires his coach because he considers this a losing season, then he is serious dumb****.
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As much as I am for us getting Luck, it's a little early to call this a "horrible losing season." If Pioli looks at a 2-3 record and fires his coach because he considers this a losing season, then he is serious dumb****.
This is going to be a horrible losing season. Make no mistake. We can't play winless losers every week.
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Old 10-10-2011, 10:18 PM   #9
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This is going to be a horrible losing season. Make no mistake. We can't play winless losers every week.
I think you are right, but firing the HC because he will probably have a losing season is insanity. It will not happen. Haley might get fired, but it will be at the end of the season if he does.
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So we're going to extend a coach who had two horrible losing seasons in three years?

No.
He hasn't had two horrible seasons yet.
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Old 10-10-2011, 10:21 PM   #11
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So we're going to extend a coach who had two horrible losing seasons in three years?

No.
How can you blame him for 2009? Throwing that mark on his resume, when I am pretty sure you didn't last year, is a little extreme.

Question, how many wins should a coach in Haley's position right now have with Cassel and without Berry/Charles get this season? Honestly. What should the Chiefs record be with Cassel at the helm?

Haley's plan shit the bed and it made us lose bad the first two weeks. Looking at the Bills and Lions, its not crazy to see that we lost to them with Cassel and without Berry and then with Cassel and without Berry/Charles. Its just the way it happened. Looking at the team playing now, I don't think they lose by as much.

If Haley had a good QB and Berry/Charles do you really think we would be struggling right now? I really don't. I don't want him fired because of that situation. If we had a good QB and a healthy core, I think we are 3-2 at the VERY least. I don't think its insane to say that we could have won 1 of the first 2 games with a real QB and both our stars. Neither of those games were out of hand early and those 3 players could have changed the course. So for me, its not Haley.

I want Haley haters to answer the questions in bold. Not because I think there is no answer, but because the answer to those questions is how I will know where you are thinking-wise and if its reasonable.
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How can you blame him for 2009? Throwing that mark on his resume, when I am pretty sure you didn't last year, is a little extreme.
The Chiefs lost six games that year by a TD or less.

Haley did not even start Jamaal Charles until Week 10.

He also made dumbass decisions on OC and DC.

So yeah, part of the blame for that season goes to Haley.
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Old 10-10-2011, 10:30 PM   #13
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The Chiefs lost six games that year by a TD or less.

Haley did not even start Jamaal Charles until Week 10.

He also made dumbass decisions on OC and DC.

So yeah, part of the blame for that season goes to Haley.
Please answer the bold questions. I am fine with that response for 2009, although I don't blame him for OC/DC decisions his first year as a head coach. I am guessing most rookie head coaches make mistakes like that. Again, the tougher questions please.
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The Chiefs lost six games that year by a TD or less.

Haley did not even start Jamaal Charles until Week 10.

He also made dumbass decisions on OC and DC.

So yeah, part of the blame for that season goes to Haley.
Thats bullshit and you know it.

Chan Gailey was forced on Haley as was Weis after him. So was Romeo Crennel, too.

I know you know this, Clancy was never hired as the DC he was hired as a defensive assistant that didnt get a title until Romeo turned down the job in 2009.

Couple that with being handcuffed to Cassel and a worthless draft... you absolutely have to dish out some of the blame for that years failure on Haley for not working things out with Gailey (which at the time I saw as a huge mistake and as it turns out, it probably was)

I think what Haley has done in keeping this team together and his motivational tools is pretty impressive.
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The Chiefs lost six games that year by a TD or less.

Haley did not even start Jamaal Charles until Week 10.

He also made dumbass decisions on OC and DC.

So yeah, part of the blame for that season goes to Haley.
hindsight genius. if only we could see the future somehow....
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