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Old 11-23-2011, 09:44 AM   #1
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Haley's definitely not Rich Kotite. He's also not Bill Walsh. To me, he's just a guy. Yeah, he got a bit of a raw deal with the Cassel thing, but that's balanced out by the fact that I'm not sure he was really ready or competent enough to be a HC.

If he gets canned, it won't bother me. If he stays, it won't bother

I will say this: if we do draft a QB in the first (I'm still pessimistic), I'd much rather have Haley than some retread defensive coach (John Fox, Jeff Fisher, Bill Cowher, etc.) who loathes the thought of developing a young QB and just wants someone to manage the game.
I sort of agree with this. It wouldn't be horrible.

But even with a franchise QB I still get the heebie jeebies that Haley would do something dumb in a close game in the playoffs.
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Old 11-23-2011, 09:53 AM   #2
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I sort of agree with this. It wouldn't be horrible.

But even with a franchise QB I still get the heebie jeebies that Haley would do something dumb in a close game in the playoffs.
Actually Haley's problem isn't losing close games. It's getting blown out. A case could be made that blowout loses reflect talent deficiencies.
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Old 11-23-2011, 09:55 AM   #3
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A case could be made that blowout loses reflect talent deficiencies.
Bullshit. The #1 symptom of blowout losses is not being adequately prepared. This is the modern NFL. Shitty teams are competing with good teams every week because of parity.

You people don't want to blame Haley for ANYTHING.
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Old 11-23-2011, 10:02 AM   #4
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Bullshit. The #1 symptom of blowout losses is not being adequately prepared. This is the modern NFL. Shitty teams are competing with good teams every week because of parity.

You people don't want to blame Haley for ANYTHING.
We are outmatched against playoff teams. Talent wise.
And we have a an that can't beat teams who score more than 20 points.

We only win games when our team plays at 200 percent. When your team can only won with heart and rarely wins on talent, that's a reflection on the gm who is responsible for personnel decisions.
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Old 11-23-2011, 02:56 PM   #5
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Bullshit. The #1 symptom of blowout losses is not being adequately prepared. This is the modern NFL. Shitty teams are competing with good teams every week because of parity.

You people don't want to blame Haley for ANYTHING.
How did we win the division last year? By simply beating the really bad teams, and letting Oakland and SD give away games to inferior talent. It seems like we have to play perfect games to win.

Having said that, I won't shed a tear if he is fired if the offense sans Cassel doesn't show signs of life by the end of the season. We at least moved the ball between the 20s on Monday. A small start.
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