Haley's termination. Cliff notes and highlites?

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Fritz88

Then why wasn't Cassel improving this season? Why didn't Cassel show any flashes of being an average QB in Haley's first season?

It was all Weis who got the most out of Cassel by calling the right plays and knowing how to maximize the potential of those around him.
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2 words: Jamaal Charles

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Dave

2 words: Jamaal Charles

So if a RB was cause for Cassels success then he didn't progress at all. Weis just designed an offense to make the best of what he had and Haley doesn't deserve shit for Cassel because nothing changed.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by jd1020

So if a RB was cause for Cassels success then he didn't progress at all. Weis just designed an offense to make the best of what he had and Haley doesn't deserve shit for Cassel because nothing changed.

Haley probably made Cassel protect the ball better, maybe improved his footwork a little.

We scored because of Charles.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by jd1020

So if a RB was cause for Cassels success they he didn't progress at all. Weis just designed an offense to make the best of what he had and Haley doesn't deserve shit for Cassel because nothing changed.

You can only mask a turd so much.

Jc is the type of player Defenses have to gameplan for.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Fritz88

Then why wasn't Cassel improving this season? Why didn't Cassel show any flashes of being an average QB in Haley's first season?

It was all Weis who got the most out of Cassel by calling the right plays and knowing how to maximize the potential of those around him.
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Im gonna go ahead and believe one of the most rock solid sources in the media over your opinion.

Haley coached Cassel up after Weis quit on the project.

That info also makes me wonder if Weis really did want Clausen and that him quitting on Cassel that early was a sign that the team needed to draft or trade for somebody to replace him with.

Watch Weis get back into the NFL after another year and for him to make a trade for Jimmy to be his QB.

Stranger things have happened.

Originally Posted by jd1020

So if a RB was cause for Cassels success then he didn't progress at all. Weis just designed an offense to make the best of what he had and Haley doesn't deserve shit for Cassel because nothing changed.

If you really believe this, you are one of the most "football stupid" posters here.

It was against bad defenses, but Cassel looked really good during part of 2010.

Guys like The Bad Guy talked about him as if he was in the MVP race.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by BossChief

If you really believe this, you are one of the most "football stupid" posters here.

It was against bad defenses, but Cassel looked really good during part of 2010.

Guys like The Bad Guy talked about him as if he was in the MVP race.

Cassel was good against bad defenses, coincidentally the same ****ing opponents, in 2008.

So what changed?

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Cassel was good against bad defenses, coincidentally the same ****ing opponents, in 2008.

So what changed?

I dont even know what you're asking here.

I said it was mostly against bad defenses...

I can also say that I watched 11 of those 2008 games of his in NE (on NFL replay) and had my eyes totally wide open as to his strengths and weaknesses well before he was traded for.

The same strengths and weaknesses he still has to this day.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Omega

Haley probably made Cassel protect the ball better, maybe improved his footwork a little.

We scored because of Charles.

true

Originally Posted by Omega

And then that coaching fell apart in 2011?

Sounds like bullshit to me.

Cassel won 11 games and looked like an NFL QB in 2008.

Its not that it "fell apart" its that Haley was asking Cassel to take that next step.

Haley is smart enough to know that you arent gonna win big playoff games with the gameplan we had in 2010....Baltimore reinforced that...Cassel was put in position to take the next step in his development and showed the world he was incapable of doing so.

Dont you remember us all talking about how Cassel was being asked to do more at the start of the year and was failing at it?

I sure as hell do.

Cassel is costing really good coaches their jobs left and right since 2009.

Hopefully, that ends.

I have some level of hope that Pioli is gonna make a smoke screen to make it seem as if we have no interest in drafting a quarterback.

I doubt he brings any of the top guys in for a private workout (only the guys that are looked at as late round picks), but brings in every single linemen, linebacker, running back and safety thats thought of as a first round pick.

Throw everyone off the scent so teams dont think they have to leapfrog us to draft their guy.

Why, you might ask?

Because thats pretty close to what I would do.

Then, BOOM goes the dynamite and Pioli becomes the golden God of KC.

(I can dream, cant I?)

Originally Posted by Omega

I will be interested to see what you say when Haley is coaching WRs in 5 years.

If that happens, I will have no problem admitting I am wrong.

Never have.

Now, when Haley does as I say....I fully expect you to say this conversation never happened and I will be too lazy to look it up.

[Fritz88]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Im gonna go ahead and believe one of the most rock solid sources in the media over your opinion.

Haley coached Cassel up after Weis quit on the project.

That info also makes me wonder if Weis really did want Clausen and that him quitting on Cassel that early was a sign that the team needed to draft or trade for somebody to replace him with.

Watch Weis get back into the NFL after another year and for him to make a trade for Jimmy to be his QB.

Stranger things have happened.


If you really believe this, you are one of the most "football stupid" posters here.

It was against bad defenses, but Cassel looked really good during part of 2010.

Guys like The Bad Guy talked about him as if he was in the MVP race.

So if a rock soild source throws up shit, its infallible truth?

Ill give Charles credit and say he's 80% spot on some of what he said. But to draw the conclusion that it was Haley who got the most out of Cassel last year by developing him is horseshit.

If its anything, its an indictment of how shitty of a coach Haley is, because if he improved Cassel, it would have carried on to this season. Instead, Cassel regressed from the moment Weis announced he was leaving. I am going to consider this more logical than some tweets.
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