Haley's termination. Cliff notes and highlites?

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Clueless is probably the better word. We all know he did care.
What underachievers are you refering to?

Why didn't Vermeil draft offensive players and bring in defensive players through FA?

The three players you brought up that I named in my followup post.

I wouldn't label Donnie an underachiever.
He was simply overrated by Chief fans.

But regardless of the label, blame for his departure falls more to Carl than Dick.

And I'd guess that the primary reason that you would draft D and sign O in free agency is that it's generally thought that rookies can assimilate defense and have an impact quicker than offensive skill position players.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by milkman

The three players you brought up that I named in my followup post.

I wouldn't label Donnie an underachiever.
He was simply overrated by Chief fans.

But regardless of the label, blame for his departure falls more to Carl than Dick.

And I'd guess that the primary reason that you would draft D and sign O in free agency is that it's generally thought that rookies can assimilate defense and have an impact quicker than offensive skill position players.

Wow I wouldn't call Chester, Dan Williams, or Duane Clemons underachievers. Dan may have been injured and took plays off but he was good. Not to mention my original point is that we had a lot of cap space in those players.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Wow I wouldn't call Chester, Dan Williams, or Duane Clemons underachievers. Dan may have been injured and took plays off but he was good. Not to mention my original point is that we had a lot of cap space in those players.

Chet had the talent to be the most dominating DT in the game, and never lived up to that ability.

Dan Williams got paid, and his production plummted.

Clemons, maybe not an underachiever, but he really wasn't all that good.

They were all disposable.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by milkman

Chet had the talent to be the most dominating DT in the game, and never lived up to that ability.

Dan Williams got paid, and his production plummted.

Clemons, maybe not an underachiever, but he really wasn't all that good.

They were all disposable.

Maybe for some teams in the NFL, but not for this one at that time. Do you think that Tyson Jackson, Kelly Gregg, and Glenn Dorsey are better than that DLine. Understanding a difference from 4-3 to 3-4. I am not sure that we have a line that was that good even now.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Maybe for some teams in the NFL, but not for this one at that time. Do you think that Tyson Jackson, Kelly Gregg, and Glenn Dorsey are better than that DLine. Understanding a difference from 4-3 to 3-4. I am not sure that we have a line that was that good even now.

This D-line is better.

Tamba Hali and Justin Houston, the last couple of weeks, don't get to the QB if the D-Line isn't doing their job.

DJ and Bellcher aren't run stuffers if the D-Line isn't doing their job.

That line that consisted of Chet, Williams and Clemons should have been a dominating group.

They weren't.

They were owned and abused.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by milkman

This D-line is better.

Tamba Hali and Justin Houston, the last couple of weeks, don't get to the QB if the D-Line isn't doing their job.

DJ and Bellcher aren't run stuffers if the D-Line isn't doing their job.

That line that consisted of Chet, Williams and Clemons should have been a dominating group.

They weren't.

They were owned and abused.

The biggest memory I have since that old DLine is what seems as a lifetime of Eric Hicks. Man our line was really bad after those guys were gone.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

The biggest memory I have since that old DLine is what seems as a lifetime of Eric Hicks. Man our line was really bad after those guys were gone.

They weren't that great WITH them.

9th in yards in 1998 but 22nd in points against. 13th in points and 14th in yards in 1999.