I owe Kyle Orton an apology...

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

That wasn't a problem last year. Matt still showed no ability to make pre snap adjustments, find a 2nd or 3rd target, or throw an accurate ball and he was one of the worst in the NFL at throwing a deep ball.

And this is cinsidering that defenses were throwing 8 in a box loading up against the run. That's a qbs wet dream.

Don't know where Petro found it, but his downfield completion percentage over his career is better than Orton.

I guess I should just change my argument. Because it isn't really who is better, it is that Orton still isn't good enough.

But, if you asked me to pick a QB out of those two for the NFL, it has to be Cassel.

Why? Orton doesn't put in the work, and football isn't his first priority.

See, that is why McDaniels loves Cassel. That is why I would choose Cassel over Orton.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by SenselessChiefsFan

Don't know where Petro found it, but his downfield completion percentage over his career is better than Orton.

I guess I should just change my argument. Because it isn't really who is better, it is that Orton still isn't good enough.

But, if you asked me to pick a QB out of those two for the NFL, it has to be Cassel.

Why? Orton doesn't put in the work, and football isn't his first priority.

See, that is why McDaniels loves Cassel. That is why I would choose Cassel over Orton.

Over his career. Thats what happens when you have the best jump ball receiver of all time in Randy moss. Daunte Culpepper was nails when he had moss too.

Your comment on or ton's work ethic are ridiculous and unfounded. from what I've heard, he has a very good work ethic and his teammates like him. Mcdaniels loved cassel because he knew he could run his system. You have no idea who he would choose today. Remember, he chose cassel over orton in Denver because he had never worked with orton before.

Also, the fact that cassel puts in a ton of work and doesn't improve is a huge concern.

No, cassel does not make good pre snap adjustments. Too many plays where you see more blitzers than blockers. That's a qb issue.

Nobody here wants orton as a long term option. You are the only one who for whatever bizarre reason thinks cassel is any good. Again, the chiefs didn't have problems with play calling or communication last year. And cassel still struggled, despite his stats. Quite simply, he is a one read guy. You send in the play and he throws to his primary target or else check down. That works when you have moss. It does not work when you have even very good receivers like bowe.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by SenselessChiefsFan

That is why I would choose Cassel over Orton.

You might be the dumbest ****er on this board or top three.

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by SenselessChiefsFan

Don't know where Petro found it, but his downfield completion percentage over his career is better than Orton.

I guess I should just change my argument. Because it isn't really who is better, it is that Orton still isn't good enough.

But, if you asked me to pick a QB out of those two for the NFL, it has to be Cassel.

Why? Orton doesn't put in the work, and football isn't his first priority.

See, that is why McDaniels loves Cassel. That is why I would choose Cassel over Orton.

I'm not some Orton fan, but this is pure speculative nonsense.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

I'm not some Orton fan, but this is pure speculative nonsense.

That is the first I ever heard that. I think he saw some pictures of him drinking and boozing and assumed that. Everything i've heard is that he has a solid work ethic and is liked by his teammates. I don't think he has a Tom Brady like work ethic (in cassel's defense, he's a relentlessly hard worker. Probably works harder than Orton). But that doesn't mean it's close to an issue.