what's with all the Orton isn't the answer talk?

[wutamess]

OK he has the same stats avg as Cassle. BS! My dad and I argue about the Cheifs as if we're Pioli and Haley. I told him 3 weeeks ago, "dude. We finally have our QB." He looked at me like I was crazy and borderline ignored me.

I tried explaining to him we finaly have a qb that can make all of the throws. All he could muster up was he wasn't shit in Denve and he wasn Shit in Chicago. I told him he had good stats lat yar and turned Brandn Lloyd into NFLs #1 wr last year. He wasn't buying it but my point was valid.

I further went to explain that now Orton had something he's NEVER had as far as weapons. Now he has 2 BIG WRs as well as a WR that will stretch the field. Add JC and Moeki coming back next year and I think we can be a top 5 offense with Orton.

I just don't understand why people think he's a fluke ad try to compare him to Cassle when he's HEAD AND SHOULDERS above Cassel in EVERY category. I'll go so far as to say we don't need to draft qb this year if we sign Orton... I'm als thinking with Berry coming back and a O tackle and another stud LB to complement DJ, we're poised for a SUPERBOWL RUN!

[KC_Lee]

Originally Posted by FringeNC

Kyle Orton is on a completely different level than Matt Cassel.

While this is true it ain't saying much.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by Shox

Giving away draft picks to move up when you still have holes to fill for a QB who might be Ryan Leaf, David Carr, etc etc is stupid.

If we had the Oline fixed, a nose tackle, ILB, another pass rusher and a RB to complement Charles. Sure give all our picks to get one of the top 2 QBs....but we don't.

Sign Orton to a 2-3 year deal and keep looking for the next Tom Brady later in draft. Orton is still young and seems to still be improving. He will make us a playoff caliber team at the worst and who knows he might be a Gannon or Simms type QB and get to a superbowl.

Never go full reerun.

[chiefscafan]

I'm not ready to give orton a ring, but one game with him I'm ready to give him the job over cassel. Someone asked me what's the difference between the two was this:

I'm orton take snap look at first option covered, look second, look third , look fourth throw complete no panicking.

I'm cassel take snap look at first option still looking, come on get open man , crap here comes the pass rush crap, and throws it away, an interception, in the dirt, or crumbles in the pocket.

The reason I go with orton two words:

Pocket Awareness

Not sure I can support pioli if he let's orton go and tries to sell us on cassel again. Only way I support cassel if we draft a QB for the future. Unfortunately he'd probably be still
QB the whole year. Me I'm done with Cassel.

[Rasputin]

Un****ingbelievable. After all these years of fail of winning a playoff game with retread QBs Orton is our guy. Un****ingbelievable. **** you true fans **** you.

[bricks]

Originally Posted by chiefscafan

I'm not ready to give orton a ring, but one game with him I'm ready to give him the job over cassel. Someone asked me what's the difference between the two was this:

I'm orton take snap look at first option covered, look second, look third , look fourth throw complete no panicking.

I'm cassel take snap look at first option still looking, come on get open man , crap here comes the pass rush crap, and throws it away, an interception, in the dirt, or crumbles in the pocket.

The reason I go with orton two words:

Pocket Awareness

Not sure I can support pioli if he let's orton go and tries to sell us on cassel again. Only way I support cassel if we draft a QB for the future. Unfortunately he'd probably be still
QB the whole year. Me I'm done with Cassel.

I have this feeling Pioli is going to keep Cassel.

The Chiefs will probably sign Orton as well. I could see them keeping both Cassel and Orton and drafting an offensive lineman in the first round. Then they are going to let Cassel and Orton compete for the starting QB job. That seems to be the way the Chiefs operate. I hope I'm wrong.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Shox

Giving away draft picks to move up when you still have holes to fill for a QB who might be Ryan Leaf, David Carr, etc etc is stupid.

If we had the Oline fixed, a nose tackle, ILB, another pass rusher and a RB to complement Charles. Sure give all our picks to get one of the top 2 QBs....but we don't.

Sign Orton to a 2-3 year deal and keep looking for the next Tom Brady later in draft. Orton is still young and seems to still be improving. He will make us a playoff caliber team at the worst and who knows he might be a Gannon or Simms type QB and get to a superbowl.

Holy shit.....I have no idea who you are....but I ****ing hate you.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Cut C@$$hole and Palko.

Resign Orton to a 3 year deal.

Draft the best QB we can trade up for...

I agree that this would be our best route to take.

[Rasputin]

Orton is the kind of QB that is great one week just to flop the next. He is of the inconsistent variety of QB. That is recipe for 8-8 season or 10-6 season & getting our ass kicked yet again in the playoffs. That's what we get. Oh boy & the joy of making the playoffs for the true fans just makes em happy.

[Chiefnj2]

I can't believe how much people make of one good game.

You need a QB that can carry the team into the playoffs. The Falcons had something like 8 playoff appearances in 40 years. They draft Ryan and now they are in every year and have a decent chance of winning some games.

KC NEEDS TO DESPERATELY DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO DRAFT A POTENTIAL FRANCHISE QB AND PLAY THE KID. WORRY ABOUT ORTON, CASSEL, HASSELBACK, MCNABB OR WHOEVER ELSE AFTER YOU DRAFT THE QBOTF.

[kaplin42]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Cut C@$$hole and Palko.

Resign Orton to a 3 year deal.

Draft the best QB we can trade up for...

/All threads on this topic are over now.

[jd1020]

Interim coach Romeo Crennel said Kyle Orton should be the Chiefs 2012 starter if he wins the final two games.
There's a ton of uncertainty in Kansas City, so Crennel is getting way ahead of himself here. He's no lock to get the head coaching job, Orton is an impending free agent and Matt Cassel is under contract through 2014. Still, Orton may truly be a better option than Cassel. The Chiefs would be foolish not to at least consider using him as a "bridge" to a rookie quarterback they might draft in April.

[KC_Lee]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I can't believe how much people make of one good game.

You need a QB that can carry the team into the playoffs. The Falcons had something like 8 playoff appearances in 40 years. They draft Ryan and now they are in every year and have a decent chance of winning some games.

KC NEEDS TO DESPERATELY DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO DRAFT A POTENTIAL FRANCHISE QB AND PLAY THE KID. WORRY ABOUT ORTON, CASSEL, HASSELBACK, MCNABB OR WHOEVER ELSE AFTER YOU DRAFT THE QBOTF.

This, over and over and over and over.

How many more times do we need to get excited over some scrub QB that we picked up from some other team?

It's almost Pavlonian how Chiefs' fans respond to one good game from scrub QBs and the fact that this team has NEVER drafted and developed its own franchise QB goes right out the window.

Orton is A answer, not THE answer.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Really...you guys don't want to kick the tires some more? You're ready to put a ring on his finger? Wow.

You really should read the posts in this thread.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Interim coach Romeo Crennel said Kyle Orton should be the Chiefs 2012 starter if he wins the final two games.
There's a ton of uncertainty in Kansas City, so Crennel is getting way ahead of himself here. He's no lock to get the head coaching job, Orton is an impending free agent and Matt Cassel is under contract through 2014. Still, Orton may truly be a better option than Cassel. The Chiefs would be foolish not to at least consider using him as a "bridge" to a rookie quarterback they might draft in April.

Where did Romeo say this? Is it true?

Is the CERTAINTY of no Matt Cassel reason enough to give him the job NOW?

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Shox

Giving away draft picks to move up when you still have holes to fill for a QB who might be Ryan Leaf, David Carr, etc etc is stupid.

If we had the Oline fixed, a nose tackle, ILB, another pass rusher and a RB to complement Charles. Sure give all our picks to get one of the top 2 QBs....but we don't.

Sign Orton to a 2-3 year deal and keep looking for the next Tom Brady later in draft. Orton is still young and seems to still be improving. He will make us a playoff caliber team at the worst and who knows he might be a Gannon or Simms type QB and get to a superbowl.

The biggest hole on this team is and almost always has been our QB. Instead of picking up retreads and late round QB's why don't we do what it takes to get a first round caliber QB even if it means trading up for. I swear some people won't trade up for a QB because he might be a Ryan Leaf, but would rather keep a pick that could turn into a Trezelle Jenkins. Any player can bust. ANY! There is no guarantee that the picks we keep instead of giving up for a QB will pan out either. This team has holes and always will as all teams do (look at GB and NE).

We can get great players at every position but QB in FA. No more hoping for a late round gem hoping he becomes the next Tom Brady. Wake up! Tom Brady was a once in a lifetime (not generation, lifetime) QB. Now why are NE and GB considered elite in spite of their holes? Just look at who they have under center to answer that question. Orton is serviceable, but if he were what you think he is, he wouldn't be with us. Chicago gave up alot PLUS Orton just to get Cutler. Denver benched him and eventually cut him for a QB many think is a glorified HB. When he was a FA, only three teams put in a waiver request for him, and one was us. That is 3 out of 32 teams. There are more teams then that who could use a QB, yet they passed on him.

Is he better than Cassel? Sure, but Cassel should not be the litmus test used to determine whether a QB is good or not. I am all for resigning Orton for at least a year and trading up for a QB (unless that QB is Luck) and letting our first rounder riding the pine for a year, but I do not think Orton is a guy who can take us to the promised land. I know he fooled some people by putting up a whopping 19 points against the worst defense in football, but he is on team three for a reason.