Fox asked if Orton "gives Chiefs best chance to win"

[Straight, No Chaser]

Earlier in the year, before Tebow was starting, John Fox kept saying Orton "gives us the best chance to win." When asked if Orton gives the Chiefs the best chance to win, he said, "that's funny." But he wasn't smiling. Denver fishwraps really questioning Elroy's decision 2 waive Orton.

If Kyle Orton and the Chiefs win Sunday, the Broncos' releasing of Orton on Nov. 22 will go down as one of the franchise's all-time boneheaded personnel moves.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

if you are keeping the game close, why would the other team be running a "prevent defense" ????

Have you ever watched the NFL?

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by milkman

Have you ever watched the NFL?

Just answer the question...

Why would two teams in a very tight game go into a prevent defense?

[Okie_Apparition]

There maybe real live evil in Denver
McDaniels takes them on a six game win streak
Tebow takes them on a six game win streak
In the year 2012 the 3rd six...Ima scurred

[Radar Chief]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

if you are keeping the game close, why would the other team be running a "prevent defense" ????

Under 2:00 minutes and you've got them done by 7. Are you going to play tight man coverage or are you going to concede time eating plays to the middle of the field between the 20's?

[FD]

If the Chiefs didn't pick up Orton, Chicago would have, and it was pretty obvious if Orton had been their QB instead of Hanie they would have won at Denver 3 weeks ago. Either way, Elway gets to make his point.

[Okie_Apparition]

I think the Cowboys were next on the waiver wire

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by Radar Chief

Under 2:00 minutes and you've got them done by 7. Are you going to play tight man coverage or are you going to concede time eating plays to the middle of the field between the 20's?

Would probably continue to play tight coverage on the outside... a Deep Cover 2 shell to "prevent" the big play and force everything inside.

I wouldnt however play 10 yards off the WRs as you see most teams do now days...

[Straight, No Chaser]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

I don't think it was a coincidence that Elfway cut Orton the same week Cassel gets put on IR from a "hand injury". I think Elfway took a chance that KC would pick him up knowing the way of the Chiefs is going with the retread & that takes KC out of the big picure of finding a QBotf via draft.

That's being quite imaginative. In fact, Elway readily admitted that Kansas City claiming Orton was not a desirable outcome. But it was clearly a possible and foreseeable outcome. So why waive him?

[CoMoChief]

LOL at the fools who think Tim Tebow can be a legit NFL QB.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Chiefaholic

Somebody PLEASE explain this to ESPN, so they'll stop sucking his schlong.Teblow gets way too much credit for the effort of the team around him. Denver wins in spite of Teblow, not the other way around.

Then when the same Broncos team WITH Brandon Lloyd was losing with Orton under center was it all Orton's fault? Were they losing in spite of Orton? If so, why should we believe this guy will do anything for us?

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Straight, No Chaser

Earlier in the year, before Tebow was starting, John Fox kept saying Orton "gives us the best chance to win." When asked if Orton gives the Chiefs the best chance to win, he said, "that's funny." But he wasn't smiling. Denver fishwraps really questioning Elroy's decision 2 waive Orton.

If Kyle Orton and the Chiefs win Sunday, the Broncos' releasing of Orton on Nov. 22 will go down as one of the franchise's all-time boneheaded personnel moves.

Are you stupid son?

[Straight, No Chaser]

Originally Posted by vailpass

Are you stupid son?

Well "Dad" maybe I'm not quite the expert at Bronco Boneheaded Personnel moves as you. Enlighten me. What is your top three?

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Straight, No Chaser

Well "Dad" maybe I'm not quite the expert at Bronco Boneheaded Personnel moves as you. Enlighten me. What is your top three?

Were you in a coma over the entire McDaniels era?

[Straight, No Chaser]

Originally Posted by vailpass

Were you in a coma over the entire McDaniels era?

That one must be #1 in recent memory, sure.

I just can't see dumping Orton The Broncos are cheap and needed to save the money. With a team salary cap number in the neighborhood of $100 million, Bowlen, who has always claimed winning as his singular goal, was willing to take a competitive risk to save $2.6 million?

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

2011 4th quarter comebacks and game winning drives:

Tebow - 5
Orton - 0

But for Tebow, Denver doesn't control their own destiny with the playoffs on the line.

I'm not sure if I'm reading that correctly. Are you saying that Denver doesn't control it's own destiny right now? Win the game and they advance... is that not controlling their own destiny?

And, all the Orton talk is good for the media circus at this time of year and it gives this game more attention than it would receive otherwise.

Few talked positively about Orton when he was starting in Denver... few talked positively of him when he was claimed by KC. There's that fascinating aspect of how he can return as a Chief and stomp their playoff chances into the ground, but I really fail to see how that proves cutting him was wise.

Again ... nobody liked Orton much and few thought he could lead them anywhere, many think the same (or worse) about Tebow. So, I just don't see how this could end up as the worst move of all time.