Sac's 2012 End of Season Mock

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Your anti-Albertism is at a hilarious level. Also, DeCastro is a far more elite prospect than Konz. I don't know where you come up with this shit, but its sad.

Konz, as a junior, is, by far and away, the best center in this draft. He is the best true center prospect since Alex Mack. That is elite.

DeCastro is a guard that played in front of one of the best college quarterbacks of recent memory. A guard.

When you consider that Jon Martin, Dave DeCastro, Colby Fleener are all being talked about as "best at their position" when playing in front of a guy like Luck, one has to consider if it's Luck that's really, really good, or is it all these other guys that are "elite" level players.

Case in point, remember when all those guys from North Carolina State's defensive line got drafted in the first couple of rounds a couple of years back? Yeah, those same guys that played on the same line with Mario Williams.

Oh, yeah. Also, for Chief fans, remember that Ryan Sims guy, who tore it up at the Senior Bowl and who played next to some guy named Julius Peppers?

Exactly.

Maybe it's Martin, Fleener and DeCastro that are "elite" and they've been carrying Luck for the past couple of seasons.

Yeah, that's it...Luck is just been riding on these guys coat tails and he's completely overrated.

And I'm not saying that DeCastro sucks. He's had a very nice career. It's just that it's hard to evaluate a guy like that when you have a guy like Luck as a quarterback.

As well, I'm curious why he never got moved over to the center position in college when that's what he played in high school and was so highly rated for at that stage.

[jd1020]

You could say the same thing about Konz who played infront of Russell Wilson, who passed for over 10 ypa, completed 72% of his passes, and threw for 33 TDs this year. And Montee Ball, who rushed for nearly 2000 yards and scored 33 TDs.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by jd1020

You could say the same thing about Konz who played infront of Russell Wilson, who passed for over 10 ypa, completed 72% of his passes, and threw for 33 TDs this year. And Montee Ball, who rushed for nearly 2000 yards and scored 33 TDs.

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[aturnis]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Konz, as a junior, is, by far and away, the best center in this draft. He is the best true center prospect since Alex Mack. That is elite.

DeCastro is a guard that played in front of one of the best college quarterbacks of recent memory. A guard.

When you consider that Jon Martin, Dave DeCastro, Colby Fleener are all being talked about as "best at their position" when playing in front of a guy like Luck, one has to consider if it's Luck that's really, really good, or is it all these other guys that are "elite" level players.

Case in point, remember when all those guys from North Carolina State's defensive line got drafted in the first couple of rounds a couple of years back? Yeah, those same guys that played on the same line with Mario Williams.

Oh, yeah. Also, for Chief fans, remember that Ryan Sims guy, who tore it up at the Senior Bowl and who played next to some guy named Julius Peppers?

Exactly.

Maybe it's Martin, Fleener and DeCastro that are "elite" and they've been carrying Luck for the past couple of seasons.

Yeah, that's it...Luck is just been riding on these guys coat tails and he's completely overrated.

And I'm not saying that DeCastro sucks. He's had a very nice career. It's just that it's hard to evaluate a guy like that when you have a guy like Luck as a quarterback.

As well, I'm curious why he never got moved over to the center position in college when that's what he played in high school and was so highly rated for at that stage.

Try watching him. Sure his number COULD look good b/c Luck played so well he minimized the defensive lines effectiveness. If you watch, and see how he handles himself, how he reacts, and how he run blocks, it's pretty self evident he's very, very good.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by aturnis

Try watching him. Sure his number COULD look good b/c Luck played so well he minimized the defensive lines effectiveness. If you watch, and see how he handles himself, how he reacts, and how he run blocks, it's pretty self evident he's very, very good.

I'm not saying he isn't. I think he's better than Martin. I think he's the third best offensive line guy in this draft behind Kalil and Konz.

However, with the drafting of Hudson last season and Asamoah the year before, drafting another guard, especially in the first round, is kinda silly. I guess one could make the argument that Asamoah struggled a lot this past season, which he did, but he flashed as well. I think he'll turn it up this next season. Instead of drafting another guard and converting one of the current ones on roster to center, it seems to make more sense to take the elite level center and keep the two young, talented guards at the guard position.