Ryan Braun tests positive for PED

[KC_Connection]

I can't help but think that Manny Ramirez and Barry Bonds (if he was ever caught) would never have gotten the benefit of the doubt from an arbitrator on appeal like this. The arbitrator's decision here was seemingly based on absolutely nothing.

Whatever, MLB's inconsistent brand of justice just saved my fantasy team in 2012.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I can't help but think that Manny Ramirez and Barry Bonds (if he was ever caught) would never have gotten the benefit of the doubt from an arbitrator on appeal like this. The arbitrator's decision here was seemingly based on absolutely nothing.

Whatever, MLB's inconsistent brand of justice just saved my fantasy team in 2012.

There's obviously something different that 2 out of 3 felt was significant, there was too much chatter and speculation that Braun could beat it to think that this was just arbitrary.

The decision is based on something, we just don't know what that something is yet. We already know that he failed far worse than any other known result from anyone who has ever taken that test in the world, maybe something was wrong with testing procedure or the chain of custody.

[KC_Connection]

Believe what you want, I guess. Nothing I've read (to this point, anyway) provided a good explanation for that Braun test beyond a performance enhancer.

If the decision was based on something tangible or meaningful, I really doubt MLB would have went public in their disagreement of it. Doing so is an embarrassment for them.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I can't help but think that Manny Ramirez and Barry Bonds (if he was ever caught) would never have gotten the benefit of the doubt from an arbitrator on appeal like this. The arbitrator's decision here was seemingly based on absolutely nothing.

Whatever, MLB's inconsistent brand of justice just saved my fantasy team in 2012.

If you have something to say just come right out and say it.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by vailpass

If you have something to say just come right out and say it.

No need.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

No need.

Why not?

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by vailpass

Why not?

It's all there.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

It's all there.

I can tell you are driving at something but can't pin it down. Would you mind being specific?

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by vailpass

I can tell you are driving at something but can't pin it down. Would you mind being specific?

You'll get there, don't worry.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I can't help but think that Manny Ramirez and Barry Bonds (if he was ever caught) would never have gotten the benefit of the doubt from an arbitrator on appeal like this. The arbitrator's decision here was seemingly based on absolutely nothing.

Whatever, MLB's inconsistent brand of justice just saved my fantasy team in 2012.

Manny got busted 2 times and NEVER denied it. He was guilty as they come. Bonds pretty much admitted to it saying they used to rub that shit on him but he "thought" it was some kind of bengay type shit.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja

Manny got busted 2 times and NEVER denied it.

No, Manny appealed the first time. Retired immediately after the 2nd time and didn't bother appealing.

Bonds pretty much admitted to it saying they used to rub that shit on him but he "thought" it was some kind of bengay type shit.

Oh, Bonds used a whole lot more than that.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

No, Manny appealed the first time. Retired immediately after the 2nd time and didn't bother appealing.


Oh, Bonds used a whole lot more than that.

im sure he did, but my point was that he basically admitted it.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja

im sure he did, but my point was that he basically admitted it.

True, but they didn't catch him with their tests, though.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

True, but they didn't catch him with their tests, though.

Yeah, at the time that clear shit was undetectable by the tests they were doing. Now they have tests to see that.

If i remember right that was that new shit that Balco got involved in. Its been a few years, so my memory may be a bit spotty on that.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja

Yeah, at the time that clear shit was undetectable by the tests they were doing. Now they have tests to see that.

If i remember right that was that new shit that Balco got involved in. Its been a few years, so my memory may be a bit spotty on that.

They also didn't actually have drug tests in the early 2000s. In the later 2000s, they didn't catch him as he might have been taking something else undetectable (or maybe he wasn't taking anything at all by that point, but I kind of doubt it).