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Old 02-29-2012, 11:33 AM   #11
carlos3652 carlos3652 is offline
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Qb's drafted in first round since 2000+

2000 - 1-18 - Chad Pennington (Jets)
2001 - 1-1 - Mike Vick (Falcons)
2002 - 1-1 - David Carr (Texans)
2002 - 1-3 - Joey Harrignton (Lions)
2002 - 1-32 - Patrick Ramsey (Redskins)
2003 - 1-1 - Carson Palmer (Bengals)
2003 - 1-7 - Byron Leftwich (Jaguars)
2003 - 1-19 - Kyle Boller (Ravens)
2003 - 1-22 - Rex Grossman (Bears)
2004 - 1-1 - Eli Manning (Giants)
2004 - 1-4 - Philip Rivers (Chargers)
2004 - 1-11 - Ben Roethlisberger (Steelers)
2004 - 1-22 - JP Losman (Bills)
2005 - 1-1 - Alex Smith (49ers)
2005 - 1-24 - Aaron Rodgers (Packers)
2005 - 1-25 - Jason Campbell (Redskins)
2006 - 1-3 - Vince Young (Titans)
2006 - 1-10 - Matt Leinart (Cardinals)
2006 - 1-11 - Jake Cutler (Broncos)
2007 - 1-1 - JaMarcus Russell (Raiders)
2007 - 1-22 - Brady Quinn (Browns)
2008 - 1-3 - Matt Ryan (Falcons)
2008 - 1-18 - Joe Flacco (Ravens)
2009 - 1-1 - Mathew Stafford (Lions)
2009 - 1-5 - Mark Sanchez (Jets)
2009 - 1-17 - Josh Freeman (Bucs)
2010 - 1-1 - Sam Bradford (Rams)
2010 - 1-25 - Tim Tebow (Broncos)
2011 - 1-1 - Cam Newton (Panthers)
2011 - 1-8 - Jake Locker (Titans)
2011 - 1-10 - Blaine Gabbert (Jaguars)
2011 - 1-12 - Chris Ponder (Vikings)

Notables Drafted outside 1st.

2000- Marc Bulger 6-168
2000- Tom Brady 6-199
2001- Drew Brees 2-33
2003 - Tony Romo - Undrafted
2004 - Matt Schaub 3-90
2011 - Andy Dalton 2-35

Ok, so how many Franchise Qb's from this list? Also, how many of these QB's were so called sure things to excel in the NFL. How many have panned out.

Let me know if having to get RGIII is worth trading away 3 firsts and multiple picks in the next 2 drafts. I think not.

Regardless of the last 40 year history we have had to endure- Its stupid to trade away too much for an unknown. If we could give up 2 firsts and a 3rd and a 5th id do it in a heartbeat. I wont be pissed if the redskins or browns actually give up what they are saying they will. And yes, do I feel "Next year we will do something about the QB situation" will piss people off - but if you are smart (and I think Pioli is) being Cap friendly and having young quality pieces in place year in and year out - we will eventually hit on a QB that we can call franchise in the future and we will be GREAT for 10+ years. Its not worth creating cap hell, losing pieces in the future for a gamble.

Again, I expect us to start using our first rounders for QB's - but im not willing to trade the farm on gambles, because if we countinue doing what we are doing, if we make a mistake on the gamble, we can try again, and still be in the same friendly (Cap and young pieces) situation we were when we tried the first time.

Anyways, my 2 cents. And i really do think this is what we are building towards.
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