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Old 03-08-2012, 01:38 PM  
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I kinda hope we don't. Blasphemy, I know.
Yeah, I think he can still play at a high level for a couple of years...but I'm not sure it's worth it.

I'll support it if it happens, but I'm uneasy about it.

First of all, this never works. Didn't work with Montana, Namath, Moon, Favre, etc. The aging warrior changing teams can make for a fun season (or not) but they never seem to take 'em to the SB. The only one I can think of in modern times is Kurt Warner, and he was literally on the scrap heap for a couple of years first.

I don't like tailoring an entire offense around ONE GUY who won't be here in three or four years. I don't like that it means we're starting over in 2014 or 15.

It'd be one thing if we were bringing in a quality QB to run our system, but we're going to scrap everything and run HIS system. Which will be scrapped in a couple of years also.

I'd rather try to trade up or sign an Orton and draft a Tannehill to try and build our own.
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:55 PM   #106
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Cool. Let's just stick with Cassel.
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:58 PM   #107
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Old 03-08-2012, 09:15 PM   #108
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First of all, this never works. Didn't work with Montana, Namath, Moon, Favre, etc. The aging warrior changing teams can make for a fun season (or not) but they never seem to take 'em to the SB. The only one I can think of in modern times is Kurt Warner, and he was literally on the scrap heap for a couple of years first.
I guess you never heard of Jim Plunkett. He came off the scrap heap to lead the Raiders to two Super Bowl victories.

Oh wait, I get it. It doesn't count if you're talking about Kurt Warner or Jim Plunkett or Rich Gannon or Doug Williams, guys who came off the scrap heap to take their teams to the Super Bowl. It also doesn't count if you're talking about Joe Montana or Brett Favre, guys who took their teams to within one game of the Super Bowl.

Your premise is not only flawed, it's 100% wrong.
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Old 03-08-2012, 09:18 PM   #109
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it's like Carl never left...
You're right, it is.

Hence the reason so many people want Manning.

We know they'll NEVER draft a real QB...
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Old 03-08-2012, 09:21 PM   #110
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I can kind of see where the OP is coming from. I hate the thought of having a proven commodity at the most important position for 2 or 3 years and giving a team that has the parts to win now the best chance to do that too. Continueing to under achieve and be held back by our QB while hoping only for the long term future is definately the way to go. I mean since when is the NFL a league made up of teams that would like to win now. **** now... give me hope for a maybe that comes later.
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Old 03-08-2012, 09:24 PM   #111
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You're right, it is.

Hence the reason so many people want Manning.

We know they'll NEVER draft a real QB...
manning is straight out of Carl's playbook....we haven't seen one single new idea...and fans are lapping it up like we haven't just put the 90's on a loop...of course typing that i realize fans are lapping it up because it is exactly like the 90's...only Manning is more busted than Montana

but yeah, this franchise is never going to take winning seriously, so bring on the clowns...i mean 36 year old QBs with fused necks and damaged nerves...
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Old 03-08-2012, 09:28 PM   #112
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Old 03-08-2012, 09:43 PM   #113
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manning is straight out of Carl's playbook....we haven't seen one single new idea...and fans are lapping it up like we haven't just put the 90's on a loop...of course typing that i realize fans are lapping it up because it is exactly like the 90's...only Manning is more busted than Montana

but yeah, this franchise is never going to take winning seriously, so bring on the clowns...i mean 36 year old QBs with fused necks and damaged nerves...
I call, "Unfair!", by God!

I expressed a very similar sentiment just the other day and was roundly groin-slapped by practically everybody on this board for heresy.

Meanwhile, I suppose that, at this point, it's safe to assume that all these football executives know a hell of a lot more about Manning's muscle/nerve atrophy and regeneration than we mere fans do. I have yet to read a reputable source reporting that he has recovered full use of his throwing arm and can actually perform at a reasonably high level.

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Old 03-08-2012, 09:47 PM   #114
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manning is straight out of Carl's playbook....we haven't seen one single new idea...and fans are lapping it up like we haven't just put the 90's on a loop...of course typing that i realize fans are lapping it up because it is exactly like the 90's...only Manning is more busted than Montana

but yeah, this franchise is never going to take winning seriously, so bring on the clowns...i mean 36 year old QBs with fused necks and damaged nerves...
You ready to roll with Cassel as your QB for 2 more years?
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manning is straight out of Carl's playbook....we haven't seen one single new idea...and fans are lapping it up like we haven't just put the 90's on a loop...of course typing that i realize fans are lapping it up because it is exactly like the 90's...only Manning is more busted than Montana

but yeah, this franchise is never going to take winning seriously, so bring on the clowns...i mean 36 year old QBs with fused necks and damaged nerves...
You're preaching to the choir.

We'd all love to draft a QB. That's not happening.

This is the next best thing.
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Old 03-08-2012, 11:47 PM   #116
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You're preaching to the choir.

We'd all love to draft a QB. That's not happening.

This is the next best thing.
Exactly. Who here would rather have an older QB with problems over a fresh, new talent that could become the franchise QB for 10 to 12 years? It's a moot point. Unless the Chiefs gun in and make a huge move to move up in the draft THIS year, Manning is the best option given our salary cap and our position of drafting to add more weapons....
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Old 03-09-2012, 01:37 AM   #117
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The Plunkett, Williams, etc. analogies aren't relevant. The proper example of this type of QB situation would be if we brought in David Carr or Brady Quinn and they turned into a top notch QB.

Montana, Favre, and Namath are the aging superstars that made one last go with another team.

Kurt Warners sits somewhere in the middle; eventually washed out in St. Louis (something wrong with his hand, I remember) and then was a starter/backup in NY, and finally ended up in Arizona as a vet back-up that was pressed into service when Heisman boy flopped.)

I'm just not crazy about renting the aging superstar for a couple of years. I'll take it if it means I don't have to watch Cassel shit his pants anymore. I'll cheer like everyone else. He's never going to feel like its OUR guy, though. He's a rental. I know it's a business, and that players change teams all the time, but I'm a Kansas City Chiefs fan. It sucks that we have to rent the Colts' hall of fame QB in order to try to win a Super Bowl.

I'd just rather have something other than a two year answer.
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That's my thoughts as well. I wouldn't be butt hurt if we got him, but I wouldn't be all ectatic either. More moot than anything. I so much rather pull the strings to get RGIII or even give Stanzi a shot at it. We can have a good look at next years QB class if we need too. Mostly I believe in drafting our own to reach Super Bowl glory.
You seriously need to shut the **** up about stanzi man, we are talking Peyton ****ing Manning you dumbass
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