Chiefs interested in Soliai and Manning could hold up FA in general

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

We'll never actually compete for a championship if we're forced to "win ugly".

It seems like 9-7 and an occasional playoff win is about all we can hope for.

Keep saying it if it makes you feel better.

But the Ravens and 49ers were both muffed special teams plays away from beating 2 of the 6 best QBs in the NFL to go to the Super Bowl last year.

It can be done - you just don't have as great a margin for error. With those moves, you don't need one.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Keep saying it if it makes you feel better.

But the Ravens and 49ers were both muffed special teams plays away from beating 2 of the 6 best QBs in the NFL to go to the Super Bowl last year.

It can be done - you just don't have as great a margin for error. With those moves, you don't need one.

Close only counts in horseshoes and hanggernades.

The Ravens and 49ers were both muffed special teams plays away. Just like the Chiefs in 1995 and how many other dozens of teams over the years?

The 2000 Ravens are an anomaly.

Yes, it can be done. But holding your breath waiting for the 1 in 100000 chance is going to end up with you suffocating, not with the Chiefs ground-pounding their way to a Super Bowl...

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Close only counts in horseshoes and hanggernades.

The Ravens and 49ers were both muffed special teams plays away. Just like the Chiefs in 1995 and how many other dozens of teams over the years?

The 2000 Ravens are an anomaly.

Yes, it can be done. But holding your breath waiting for the 1 in 100000 chance is going to end up with you suffocating, not with the Chiefs ground-pounding their way to a Super Bowl...

Who's holding their breath here?

For the most part, it only seems to be the QB ideologues that are going to hold their breath and stamp their feet until the Chiefs just conjure a 'franchise QB' from whole !@#$ing cloth.

There isn't one available - there just isn't, not this season. Manning's not coming here, Flynn is just another Cassel, Tannehill is just not a smart pick given the talent available on the board. He may be good in 3 years, but in the next 3 years we can likely find someone just as talented (Tannehill is a 2nd rounder any other season).

Please God, quit repeating yourselves. We all know it's easier to win with a premier QB in this league but you can't just create one - you have to have one available to you. In lieu of same, find someone you can win with and surround them with the best team possible.

Eliminating the QB position, that team would be the best team in the AFC. What else can you ask for? Given the circumstances we find ourselves in, it's possible to construct a Super Bowl contender. I'd say that's a pretty exciting idea.

Or hell, just keep holding your breath and stomping your feet. I'm sure that will fix everything.

The rest of us will actually operate in the realm of reality.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Who's holding their breath here?

For the most part, it only seems to be the QB ideologues that are going to hold their breath and stamp their feet until the Chiefs just conjure a 'franchise QB' from whole !@#$ing cloth.

There isn't one available - there just isn't, not this season. Manning's not coming here, Flynn is just another Cassel, Tannehill is just not a smart pick given the talent available on the board. He may be good in 3 years, but in the next 3 years we can likely find someone just as talented (Tannehill is a 2nd rounder any other season).

Please God, quit repeating yourselves. We all know it's easier to win with a premier QB in this league but you can't just create one - you have to have one available to you. In lieu of same, find someone you can win with and surround them with the best team possible.

Eliminating the QB position, that team would be the best team in the AFC. What else can you ask for? Given the circumstances we find ourselves in, it's possible to construct a Super Bowl contender. I'd say that's a pretty exciting idea.

Or hell, just keep holding your breath and stomping your feet. I'm sure that will fix everything.

The rest of us will actually operate in the realm of reality.

I've already accepted reality.

This team isn't going to win a thing.

I agree with your entire plan all the way up to, but not including, signing Orton.

Orton and Cassel aren't that different. The BIG difference is that Orton is a free agent and it will cost MUCH more to sign him.

If we're going to get Solai and Winston and make all these moves, we're MUCH better off just keeping Cassel and working on the QB position later.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

(Tannehill is a 2nd rounder any other season).

I think you are going to find out that the way QB's are drafted now is going to be way different than how it use to be. The risk now is very low compared to the reward.