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Old 04-29-2012, 09:36 AM   #1
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Old 04-29-2012, 11:25 AM   #2
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Save everything you've all said over the last three days and look at it again in four years. Some are going to surprise, most will disappoint, but that's the nature of the draft. I don't really bother saying much about each guy we draft because we have no idea when/how/or if they are going to develop on the Sunday after the draft.

You all know this so why go batshit about it today? With the picks this regime had made along the O-line over the last 3 years (along with Winston) we could very well end up with a top-5 line very soon if not a top 3. I remember when (not long ago) the Chiefs were known as the best O-line in the NFL. A four year stretch in the 2000's and a huge part of the 90's. Those were some of the best Chiefs teams and I would love to get back to having even the national media talking about how good our line is. Unlike when we had the best O-line in the early 2000's we now have a defense that is extremely stout to go along with it and we won't have to score 40 points a game to win.

You can bitch about Cassel all you want, but it's not going to change anything for this year. He's going to have a well above average O-line protecting him which he's never had) with young and ascending players (except Lilja) and his supporting cast is very very good. He's got Bowe, Baldwin, Breaston, Charles, Hillis, Boss, Moeaki, DMC, and we'll see if the rookie skill position players can show some flash.

If you have Manning or Brady you don't have to have as stout of an O-line as we are building, but we don't and it has been repeated time and again that this team wants to run the ball. There was nothing sexy about our first 3 draft picks, but they were our biggest positions of need. We had zero (quality) depth on the O-line and that was made very obvious with Richardson starting.

Poe is boom-or-bust and I don't think it's arguable, but if he works out it will make our very good defense even better because a dominant nose is the one piece this defense has lacked the most. We have some solid pieces on the D-line and will have to see if guys like Bailey can continue to get better. Our linebacking crew is excellent at three spots and we will see what a healthy Siler can bring to the table along with Belcher. Our secondary is a top-5 secondary with Berry back so I think we're going to be fine.

The QB position is our biggest issue/need/unknown. Which Cassel do we get? The 27-7 TD to INT Cassel or his normal 1/1 ratio? IDK, but in his 27 TD season the Chiefs were the number one rushing offense and did it with a much lesser O-line than what we will have this year and Charles was sharing the carries with broke dick TJ. I've got to believe (sure as hell hope) Baldwin can become a serious WR threat and the better our running game is it will only help him, Boss,TM, Bowe, DMC (used VERY sparingly), Breaston, etc. I think it's possible we will see Charles be better than he's ever been even if he's not 100% back yet because this will be by FAR the best line he has ever run behind..........that's not even debatable.

Other than Cassel still being the starter the Chiefs have upgraded or added quality depth at every position on offense the last 2 years. I don't think Cassel is a long term solution, but who was available this year that the Chiefs could have signed/drafted that was going to be able to step right in and take over and be better than Cassel? The best we could have done was draft a project or signed a lateral player. This team can win with Cassel at the QB if we stay relatively healthy, our O-line and running game are as stout as they should be, and our defense that is already top 10 makes another step up with Berry back and more experience under their belt. We just need Cassel to manage the game and not **** it all up with stupid decisions.........which has been shown to be a lot to ask for out of him. We look next year to try and somehow upgrade the QB position. Can't address everything in one off season.

Call me a homer or say I am delusional I don't care. I'm not saying we're a Super Bowl contender, but I will be extremely disappointed if we aren't in the playoffs as the AFC West Champs. I think we can do it even with Cassel at QB if he can just manage the game and not be a complete disaster. I don't think Manning and the Broncos are going to be nearly as good as everyone thinks they will be and I think we are a 10 plus win team if we stay relatively healthy. This roster can do it.
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Old 04-29-2012, 11:50 AM   #3
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Save everything you've all said over the last three days and look at it again in four years. Some are going to surprise, most will disappoint, but that's the nature of the draft. I don't really bother saying much about each guy we draft because we have no idea when/how/or if they are going to develop on the Sunday after the draft.
This. I mean I know it's fun to arm-chair QB the draft and all. But I hope deep down most of us realize we have about 1/100th the information available to us as an NFL GM with a full scouting department. Obviously they can still get things very very wrong. But it's a pretty huge fallacy to think we could somehow make a better choice by anything but blind luck.
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Old 04-29-2012, 12:00 PM   #4
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This. I mean I know it's fun to arm-chair QB the draft and all. But I hope deep down most of us realize we have about 1/100th the information available to us as an NFL GM with a full scouting department. Obviously they can still get things very very wrong. But it's a pretty huge fallacy to think we could somehow make a better choice by anything but blind luck.
You really should read the book I mentioned earlier.
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Old 04-29-2012, 12:17 PM   #5
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You really should read the book I mentioned earlier.
I didn't see the name of the book anywhere.

Also just to be clear, I'm not saying you can't judge coaching decisions, especially with a full year or more of results, or draft decisions after a few years.
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Old 04-29-2012, 12:11 PM   #6
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This. I mean I know it's fun to arm-chair QB the draft and all. But I hope deep down most of us realize we have about 1/100th the information available to us as an NFL GM with a full scouting department. Obviously they can still get things very very wrong. But it's a pretty huge fallacy to think we could somehow make a better choice by anything but blind luck.

Careful. You are bringing logic into an emotion driven thread.
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