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Old 04-30-2012, 11:23 AM  
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WTF Mike Silver says we are the 28th best team in the NFL

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1. New York Giants: Is general manager Jerry Reese trying to get disgruntled defensive end Osi Umenyiora to snap?

2. New England Patriots: If Bill Belichick pulled off a trade in which he managed to swap picks with himself, would his reputation for masterful maneuvering reach an unprecedented plateau?

[ Dan Wetzel: Pats move up twice during first round in a dramatic shift in strategy ]

3. Green Bay Packers: Yo, Ted Thompson, feeling a bit defensive – and does having a 28-year-old superstar quarterback impact your thinking much?

4. Baltimore Ravens: When second-round draft pick Courtney Upshaw lines up across from new teammate Michael Oher in training camp, will their biological and surrogate parents be there to cheer them on?

5. San Francisco 49ers: How happy is Jim Harbaugh that the Niners drafted a receiver whose high school nickname was "E.T." and not "Edward Scissorhands"?

6. Houston Texans: With the drafting of Wade Phillips' newest pass-rushing toy, will the Texans' defense be Mercilus in 2012?

7. Pittsburgh Steelers: Got beef?

[ Les Carpenter: Draft picks spend more time in Radio City than anticipated ]

8. Detroit Lions: If the decision-makers in the Lions' war room "listened to our board" and started speaking in Matt Millen's voice, would the team's medical staff pass out handfuls of clozapine?

9. Atlanta Falcons: Hey, Thomas Dimitroff – if second-round pick Peter Konz could play guard and center at the same time, would you have made another Julio Jones-style trade to get him sixth overall?

10. Philadelphia Eagles: After assuring offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg that Philly's plan to use a third-round pick on former Arizona quarterback Nick Foles was "a great one", was Michael Vick tempted to add, "By the way – who's Nick Foles?"

11. New Orleans Saints: When Saints general manager Mickey Loomis called in his third-round pick of Regina defensive tackle Akiem Hicks Friday night, was NFL commissioner Roger Goodell tempted to grab the phone and interject, "Yeah, we know – we've got your war room wiretapped …"

[ Fantasy: A dozen draftees bound to make an immediate fantasy impact ]

12. Denver Broncos: Will Brock Osweiler become the tallest-ever teammate to bend down and polish Peyton Manning's dress shoes before a Quarterbacks' Night Out at training camp?

13. Dallas Cowboys: What was the Wonderlic score of the Dallas Morning News website editor who posted this headline about first-round draft pick "Morrris" Claiborne?

14. New York Jets: Am I the only one who wonders whether, based on their 2011 performance, the Jets should have drafted an offensive lineman before the sixth round?

15. Cincinnati Bengals: After Rutgers receiver Mohamed Sanu got a prank call telling him the Bengals were taking him in the first round Thursday night, shouldn't Redskins tight end Chris Cooley have been considered the prime suspect?

Notre Dame WR Michael Floyd is headed to Arizona. (AP)

16. Arizona Cardinals: If I'd been at Larry Fitzgerald's house for the first round of this year's draft, would he have reacted to the selection of Notre Dame receiver Michael Floyd by racing jubilantly through his open-air living room and jumping into the pool?

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17. San Diego Chargers: After learning that Chargers GM A.J. Smith had called him a "mean, nasty man", shouldn't first-round pick Melvin Ingram have extended his hand and retorted, "Pot, meet kettle"?

18. Carolina Panthers: How crazy is it that this year's No. 1 pick, Boston College middle linebacker Luke Kuechly, is smaller than last year's No. 1, quarterback Cam Newton?

19. Buffalo Bills: When general manager Buddy Nix described the Bills as "riverboat gamblers" after trading up to get North Carolina State wideout T.J. Graham in the third round, why did I immediately picture this body of water?

20. Chicago Bears: Will the new receiving tandem of Brandon Marshall and second-round pick Alshon Jeffery cause more havoc in opposing secondaries, or in the Bears' locker room?

21. Washington Redskins: When the 'Skins released quarterback John Beck on Saturday, was he humming my altered-lyric version of this iconic '90s tune from his alt-rock namesake?

22. St. Louis Rams: In an effort to help veteran Cortland Finnegan mentor newly drafted cornerbacks Janoris Jenkins and Trumaine Johnson, will coach Jeff Fisher provide the former Titans standout with a Taser gun?

[ Rams' war room: Roll dice on Janoris Jenkin | Select next T.O. ]

23. Tennessee Titans: After NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock described second-round pick Zach Brown as "allergic to contact", how awesome would it have been to see Brown fly across the set at Radio City Music Hall, slam Mayock into the orchestra pit and yell "Gesundheit"?

24. Seattle Seahawks: What's more surprising – that Pete Carroll and Jon Schneider drafted a quarterback in the third round, or that Wisconsin's Russell Wilson is the team's highest-drafted passer in nearly two decades?

25. Oakland Raiders: How disconcerting is it that post-Al Davis Raiders are resolutely boring on draft day, and can't new GM Reggie McKenzie just indulge us with one ultra-swift, lowly regarded "reach" pick per year?

26. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: If the Muscle Hamster runs wild at Raymond James Stadium, will they put a large, spinning wheel next to the pirate ship in Doug Martin's honor?

27. Cleveland Browns: As of Thursday night, is Colt McCoy nostalgic for a little one-on-one time with Brian Daboll?

28. Kansas City Chiefs: Do Scott Pioli and Romeo Crennel seem overly optimistic in their assessment of the Chiefs' talent level – or am I just so pessimistic about K.C.'s quarterback situation that it completely clouds my thinking?

29. Jacksonville Jaguars: To realize value as the 70th overall pick, would Bryan Anger have to figure out a way to get footballs to explode upon making contact with a punt returner?

30. Minnesota Vikings: Yo, Matt Kalil – while proclaiming how much more Minnesota than California you are, were you neglecting to account for the possibility that the team which drafted you might soon be West Coast-bound?

31. Miami Dolphins: Does Jeff Irleand's latest rebuilding project involve replacing his best player – and, if so, why do I sense another protest brewing?

[ Jason Cole: Colts use Day 2 of draft to get Andrew Luck weapons in form of 2 TEs and a WR ]

32. Indianapolis Colts: Now that former Stanford tight end Coby Fleener has successfully convinced an NFL team he was worthy of being selected with the 34th overall pick, will he grow his hair out and lose the whole Rob Gronkowski impersonation bit?
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:12 PM   #151
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McCluster, whom nobody really has any idea what to do with him.


Pioli has a good idea: draft players to replace him.
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:14 PM   #152
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Well done, Capt. Obvious
Well, why did you even ask the question then.
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:15 PM   #153
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How many wins did the pats get that don't count? How about GB?
I didn't say those wins didn't count. Try to keep up.

Direckshun is sitting here saying last year's team, even without Berry, Charles and Mo, is worth 7 wins THIS SEASON.

Add those other players and you get 10-6 or something like that.

THIS SEASON...we're unlikely to face that many horrible quarterbacks who are going to gift us wins. That's truly an alignment of the stars.

It's no different than saying the 2010 Chiefs weren't as good as their record indicated...or the 1995 Chiefs, etc.
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:15 PM   #154
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Yes. The Chiefs won the division two seasons ago with Cassel and a full allotment of players, but somehow with MORE talent and those '10 players coming back...healthy...we're one of the five worst teams in the league.

Makes sense.
The problem with the 2010 Division win was that the division sucked and the schedule was ridiculously easy. They didn't beat a single good team (perhaps one "meh" team in eternally underperforming San Diego), and got curbstomped in the playoffs. Basically they were the 2007 Jayhawks, only Baltimore was waiting for them at the end and not the Chokies.
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:17 PM   #155
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DUDE.

I keep telling you:

You can't look at last year's team as a legit 7-win team.

We got practically gifted five of those wins because we played Caleb Hanie, Tim Tebow, Donovan McNabb, Curtis Painter and Kyle Boller.

Hanie and Tebow threw up all of 3 points against us. Boller threw up 0.

Painter sucked for an entire scoreless half, paving the way for our "comeback." McNabb was McNabb.

Last year's Chiefs were a 4-12 team that ran into some really shitty quarterbacks. I would be shocked if we held 3 teams to 3 or fewer points this season.

Yeah, because we didn't have serious injuries to deal with just like everybody else. You moron.
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:18 PM   #156
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He's more consistent now than before. He's a better, more polished player now. You said he was the same guy. He isn't. Same goes for DJ, Hali, etc.
He might be marginally better due to age and experience.

But I don't see how you can argue he's jumped up a tier. Even in his career season he cost us a game with a critical 3rd down drop. Last year he dropped a TD right before the interception that cost us a chance at the playoffs.

He was slightly underrated as a young WR and I think we're slightly overrating what he is now. Bowe is a fringe #1; one of the top 15-20 WRs in the game. He probably wasn't ranked quite that high to begin with age and attrition has taken some players out of the ranks of competition. He's presently in his physical prime and playing as such.

But I just don't see the refinement to his game that you all do. His greatest strides have been as a blocker, but he'll still roll out his routes and he'll still drop big plays...right before making a spectacular one.

Same guy, IMO. Slightly better, perhaps, but ultimately he's 90% similar to what he was when Haley showed up.
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:19 PM   #157
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That is the stupidest logic I've ever heard. ****, you are the worst football poster on this forum.

By your logic, every team should start deducting wins off their schedule because they beat teams with bad QB's.

I swear, you are borderline downs.
The Broncos should have gone winless and drafting ahead of the Colts.
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:19 PM   #158
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But don't you see, the injuries pretty much cancel each other out.

Give the Bears back Cutler and Forte, give the Chiefs back Charles and Berry.

I bet the Bears beat the Chiefs.

Don't even want to think about what happens if you give the Colts back Manning, or if the Raiders don't have to start Kyle Boller. Berry and Charles didn't save us from a healthy Raiders team in 2010, for sure.
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:20 PM   #159
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But don't you see, the injuries pretty much cancel each other out.

Give the Bears back Cutler and Forte, give the Chiefs back Charles and Berry.

I bet the Bears beat the Chiefs.

Don't even want to think about what happens if you give the Colts back Manning, or if the Raiders don't have to start Kyle Boller. Berry and Charles didn't save us from a healthy Raiders team in 2010, for sure.
If the injuries pretty much cancel each other out, WTF are you bringing them up? Oh yeah, to prove your fake point.
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:21 PM   #160
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The Broncos should have gone winless and drafting ahead of the Colts.
The Broncos were definitely paper tigers, and that's why their front office had the foresight to get Manning and dump Tebow.
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If the injuries pretty much cancel each other out, WTF are you bringing them up?
It only strengthens my point.

If there were no injuries at all in the NFL last year, we're probably still a 7-8 win team. Sure, we'd get better by having a couple of players back. So would other teams.
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:23 PM   #162
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It only strengthens my point.

If there were no injuries at all in the NFL last year, we're probably still a 7-8 win team. Sure, we'd get better by having a couple of players back. So would other teams.
Your argument is reeruned. Just leave the thread now and save face.
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Your argument is reeruned. Just leave the thread now and save face.
It's rather logical, actually.

Or did you think the Chiefs could actually beat a healthy Raiders team that swept us in 2010? When we were healthy?
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It only strengthens my point.

If there were no injuries at all in the NFL last year, we're probably still a 7-8 win team. Sure, we'd get better by having a couple of players back. So would other teams.


You can't look at last year's team as a legit 7-win team.



You don't say.
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:26 PM   #165
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Man if we won the Super Bowl in my lifetime I wouldn't be complaining for a LONG time. Football is my favorite sport and the Chiefs are my favorite team so the Chiefs winning the Super Bowl would be icing on the sports cake for me. You could take all my teams away but the Chiefs.
makes sense....I saw them in 2 SB's. yup, I am old.
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