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Old 05-06-2012, 02:40 PM  
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If Bowe Wants Megatron Money

Let's say, as has been rumored, that Bowe is genuinely looking for Megatron money.

Now, in case you've been living under a rock, Megatron got a seven year deal worth $134 million dollars, with $60 million guaranteed. It is the biggest contract in NFL history.

You are Scott Pioli, and you've got 'til July to get him signed to avoid paying him a $9 million franchise tag this year. You probably don't want to tag him for two straight years, as (a.) he's saying he's going hold out until you do sign him, and (b.) Branden Albert will be a free agent next year if you do.

Trading is also an option, but no team in the NFL wanted him for a 1st rounder when you tried to trade him during the draft's first day, if you believe those rumors. No team wanted to burn a 1st on Mike Wallace, either. So you're not getting a first if you try to trade him.

Explain the process by which you try to resolve this issue, all you Piolis out there.

Are you going to give him the contract he wants? Or close?

What is his contract worth to you? How do you intend on getting him down to that?

Are you going to try to trade him? What are you going to trade him for?

I know we're all going to love criticizing Pioli for whatever he does here, but it'd help if you outline what YOU'D do in his shoes.

Because this could potentially be a terrible situation.
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:02 PM   #76
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Kill everyone he cares about until he signs.
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:09 PM   #77
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Kill everyone he cares about until he signs.
Since he only cares about himself, you'd have to kill him, which, of course makes it impossible for him to sign, defeating the purpose of killing/Laz
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:13 PM   #78
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Maybe we're missing a very important factor here: he's willing to sign, but he keeps dropping the pen.
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:16 PM   #79
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Let him walk and get a compensatory pick in return and draft his replacement.

What else can you do really?

No way am I giving him Megatron money.
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:49 PM   #80
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I doubt Bowe thinks he's worth Johnson money. Hell not even Johnson is worth that type of money. Great player but a WR doesn't deserve that kind of jack.
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:56 PM   #81
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Let him walk and get a compensatory pick in return and draft his replacement.

What else can you do really?

No way am I giving him Megatron money.
I feel it's possible we already have his replacement on the roster. Maybe just wishful thinking on my part?
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:59 PM   #82
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I've give Bowe a 5-year $70 million dollar deal. $30m guaranteed.
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Old 05-06-2012, 11:14 PM   #83
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I feel it's possible we already have his replacement on the roster. Maybe just wishful thinking on my part?
This. Don't get me wrong, I hope we keep Bowe, but Baldwin could very well end up being not only a replacement, but an upgrade. I would hate to lose Bowe, though, counting chickens and all that.
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Old 05-07-2012, 12:12 AM   #84
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The Hali, Flowers, DJ and Charles deals were all good deals for the Chiefs. Way below what the market would pay them in FA. Anyone who thinks its easy to convince athletes and agents to accept anything other than top $ needs to put down the crack pipe.

Pioli may have a spotty record in drafting but resigning the "right" players for below market value they could get somewhere else..........he's killing it.

I would expect no less in the Bowe situation. unless he really wants megatron money abd his agent has convinced him he will get megatron money. If that happens Pioli won;t get shit done. And any club giving Bowe megatron money are fools.
You know he'd love to go to Washington....
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Old 05-07-2012, 01:26 AM   #85
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Trading is also an option, but no team in the NFL wanted him for a 1st rounder when you tried to trade him during the draft's first day, if you believe those rumors. No team wanted to burn a 1st on Mike Wallace, either. So you're not getting a first if you try to trade him.
This was proven to be 100% false and strictly a BS web rumor.

Pay him what he is worth, no more and no less. Certainly not Megatron money and he won't get that from anyone.
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Old 05-07-2012, 02:31 AM   #86
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Placing a dollar value on Bowe is difficult given the QB situation. Is he the player that in a 5 game stretch(admittedly against weak opposition) looked like the best receiver in the league or is he the guy who drops a routine pass in Indy that cost the Chiefs the game? Is he the D. Bowe who showed up overweight for training camp, or Dwayne Bowe who worked his tail off under Haley?

He ran a 4.40 and a 4.49 at his Pro day and has performed well for the 23rd pick in the draft. He is 27 years old so this is his "show me the money" contract.

Receivers change teams in the league because their value is difficult to measure. Diva's are not worth the headaches but guys like Fitzgerald and Andre Johnson bring it game in game out. I hope Bowe is in that company. Sign him but don't overpay?
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Old 05-07-2012, 12:48 PM   #87
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It really shouldn't be that hard. Average of the top 5 to 7 WR contracts. Put in escalators for catches and yards and so on.
As far as the tag goes for next season if Bowe is not wanting to sign a truely fair deal. You move on to signing Albert long term. I believe he would be easier to sign. That way you have the ability to use the tag on Bowe again.
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Old 05-16-2012, 08:48 PM   #88
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Bowe and Chiefs both have valid arguments

WR Dwayne Bowe is the Chiefs' most important player. He might not be the highest paid or even the best player in Kansas City, nor does he play a position that’s the most vital to the team’s success. But because he has a skill set that nobody else on the roster has, and plays in a scheme that utilizes his talents perfectly, his presence on the depth chart is more important than anybody else in a Chiefs uniform.

With that in mind, one would think the team would be eager to sign Bowe, who turns 28 in September, to a long-term contract. Based on statistics alone, he has earned it. Since the start of 2010, only six wide receivers have totaled more than Bowe's 2,321 yards, and only two (Calvin Johnson, Greg Jennings) have caught more than his 20 touchdowns. Playing in an offense that was as stable as a Jenga tower last year, he still came to play every week, finishing with more than 70 catches and 1,000 yards for the third season in his career. In 2012, with QB Matt Cassel, RB Jamaal Charles and TE Tony Moeaki back in the lineup, and the Chiefs’ offensive line much improved, Bowe’s stats could be even better.

Problem is, the Chiefs seem to be in no hurry to give Bowe the contract extension his statistics imply he has earned. The team placed the franchise tag on him in early March, preventing him from really testing the free-agent market. Bowe has yet to sign the offer, which would guarantee him $9.515 million for the upcoming season. Instead he’s holding out, hoping to work out the long-term deal he desires.

For Bowe, the decision to take his time and not rush into signing the franchise tender makes sense. His only leverage to earn a long-term contract is to make the team desperate for his talents. Without their big-play wideout, the Chiefs' offense is below-average with no proven playmakers. There are players like Charles and Moeaki, who are both coming off serious ACL tears, and 2011 first-round pick WR Jon Baldwin, who didn’t exactly make a great first impression a year ago. If Bowe continues his holdout into the 2012 season, K.C.’s attack is in big trouble. The receiver is hoping that the team realizes this before it’s too late and opts to pay him for his skills.

For the Chiefs' front office, their choice to not extend Bowe long-term is also wise. Though talented — and clearly valuable — Bowe hasn’t exactly proven himself to be an elite player. His numbers might be nice, but team insiders are worried that he doesn't always put out a maximum effort, and few would put Bowe in the same class as Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Greg Jennings and Roddy White, some of the players who have posted similar stats the past two seasons.

Bowe is a No. 1 receiver, but not the type of impact playmaker that keeps opposing defensive coordinators up at night pondering how to stop him. Proceeding with caution when it comes to guaranteeing years and dollars is the right choice of action from team management until Bowe proves himself to be dominant on a more consistent basis.

He has until July 16 to work out a new contract with the Chiefs or else be forced into signing the franchise tender. Two other wideouts were franchised this offseason — DeSean Jackson of the Eagles and Wes Welker of the Patriots. Jackson agreed to a five-year extension in mid-March; Welker signed his franchise tag on Tuesday. That leaves Bowe as the only one left in limbo. He has said that he wants to stay in Kansas City. The team has said it wants Bowe in Kansas City, for at least the upcoming season. That’s where the agreement between the two sides ends.

However, unless one of the sides budges and agrees to what the other is proposing, either in signing the one-year contract or agreeing to a long-term deal, the most valuable player on the roster might be on the sideline when it really counts, a worst-case scenario for the Chiefs.
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If Bowe pulls a Vincent Jackson, that could be a blessing in disguise.

Cassel may not even make it to game 6 without Bowe.
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If Bowe pulls a Vincent Jackson, that could be a blessing in disguise.

Cassel may not even make it to game 6 without Bowe.
Thought the new CBA made it harder to hold out?
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