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Old 08-18-2012, 08:32 PM  
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Thoughts on Preseason Game #2
No sense in waiting for this to end.

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Old 08-20-2012, 06:35 PM   #586
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You realize that Copper didn't even touch the ball on that INT? The ball was batted away before Copper could get his hands on it. I don't know about you, but if a CB touches a ball before the WR does, that's probably not a good pass. Agree or disagree?
It was a good pass and if I am going to blame Stanzi for anything on that it was the pass got there late. The defender made a good play but he wasn't in Copper's pocket. He came back on that and punched it out. Plus Copper has to do a better job of using his body to shield off the defender.
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Old 08-20-2012, 06:35 PM   #587
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We need to see Cassel just wing the **** out of it all game long against SEA and get his confidence boosted up a lil.


Then watch him throw a 15yd out pattern only to be picked off for a TD and he never attempts another pass that's plus 10yds again.
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Old 08-20-2012, 06:37 PM   #588
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I think that can be said about most teams in the NFL. There aren't but 4-5 QB's that can really succeed without a running game. NE uses the dink and dunk as a psuedo-running game. The west coast offense does similar. Overall though if most teams don't have success running the ball they become one dimensional and tend to lose.
And most all of those teams stay home from the playoffs. Clay has posted the stats.
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Old 08-20-2012, 06:37 PM   #589
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I can say this...Cassel looks like the best quarterback we have at this point.

Lets see how things are going after the next 7 games...
I will say that after 7 games in the regular season, either Cassel or Quinn will be starting. We'll probably sign Tavaris Jackson after SEA releases him if both get injured.

Stanzi just needs a perfect pocket on every play. Sounds an awful lot like a similar QB on the roster that we have all deemed unacceptable.
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Old 08-20-2012, 06:39 PM   #590
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Can you at least post a couple screen shots for me?

One of both hands on Stanzis facemask (clearly shows it for 21 frames during the slow mo replay) and the other of the ball placement on the interception.
I'm not even through the 1st half yet. I will.
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Old 08-20-2012, 06:42 PM   #591
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And all of those teams stay home from the playoffs. Clay has posted the stats.
Well that's what elite QB's do. If elite QB's were so easy to come by everyone would have one. We don't. I would hardly call Flaco elite yet his team is there every year because of solid defense and solid running and they can run the ball year in and year out. Even the Giants found their running game in the playoffs last year which allowed Manning to be even more effective.
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I would hardly call Flaco elite yet his team is there every year because of solid defense and solid running and they can run the ball year in and year out. Even the Giants found their running game in the playoffs last year which allowed Manning to be even more effective.
Flacco is better than Cassel. Flacco made plays in the playoffs last year.

We don't need a top 5 QB.

We need a top 12 QB to have a decent chance year in and year out.
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Old 08-20-2012, 06:55 PM   #593
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Can someone walk me through how to take a screen shot and post it here.

The placement of that pass was exactly where it needed to be and I have the preseason live feed paused on the frame showing exactly that.

After I post that screen shot, I can post the screen shots showing BOTH of the defenders hands on Stanzis facemask on the 4th down fumble play.
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Can someone walk me through how to take a screen shot and post it here.

The placement of that pass was exactly where it needed to be and I have the preseason live feed paused on the frame showing exactly that.
Pause the game.

Start menu - snipping tool

Click, hold and drag the cursor to form a box where you want the screen captured.

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Upload the image and share.
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Boss, if the throw was placed so perfect, and it was in time, how did the defender have time to knock it away?


Was the route not ran well?
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Just got done watching the first half of this game. Cassel looks very improved and has zip on his passes. And some of this passes were while under a good amount of pressure. Really looks like all the work he put in and all the time Zorn has had with him has made a difference. He is, without a doubt, a better QB than he was last year.

McCluster, Hillis, and Charles all look good as well. Albert had a poor game with a couple penalties. Really, though, the first string offense looked pretty good except for the Baldwin fumble which made us get down 14-0 quickly.

Much more encouraged on offense after watching it. Defense... man.. what is going on out there and what is going on with Flowers' foot?
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I'm trying to figure out how Copper was the 3rd read. I'm watching the play and he's looking straight ahead while taking 2 steps back and then he turns his head right and locks onto Copper.
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Boss, if the throw was placed so perfect, and it was in time, how did the defender have time to knock it away?


Was the route not ran well?
Copper doesnt even get his hands up to try and catch the pass AT ALL.

Seriously.

The defender is behind Copper on the play and the defenders arm is outstretched past Copper and the defender gets the hand on the ball while Coppers arms are down.

The pass was literally placed between one and two feet in front of Copper.
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I'm still confused as to why a slant would be your third read?
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I'm still confused as to why a slant would be your third read?
Pretty sure it was his first read, but w/e. He's looking straight ahead as he snaps the ball to watch the defense, for all of a half second, and then locks on to Copper which is probably the reason the ball gets knocked in the air by the defender because he read the QB.
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