Thoughts on Preseason Game #2

[petegz28]

No sense in waiting for this to end.

Break it down

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Meaningful?

How about this for meaningful?

You are now the dumbest mother****er on this board......and that's saying a lot.

I don't know man. I was reading some of those threads in the HOF and there were some pretty dumb ones in there.

Alright, let's see if I can out do myself....


Pestilence, your posts stink! ahahahaha

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by Frankie

I agree. I think 'potentially' Stanzi is the best QB we have. I say this based on his mechanics and his history of putting bad plays out of his mind in a game.

Will he be our long term starter? I don't know. The odds are high against it. But I'm not ready to discard him like a lot of posters do. I have seen how players like Tamba Hali, Trent Green, Jared Allen, etc. were going to disappear in short order if left to the fans and CP posters.

But where are the good plays? I know he shakes it off but for what?

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Show me where I defended Stanzi for one second about the fumble.

Ill be waiting right here.

In fact, I can probably quote at least 5 of my own posts showing my disgust for him not protecting the football in that situation.

I even said, "if he doesnt protect the ball in situations like that, he shouldnt be allowed to play"

FFS, some of you dumbshits need to pay attention.

Its completely fair to slam Stanzi for the fumble at the same time as saying the play should have been nullified for a facemask penalty.

I never said you were defending him. But you said that you doubted the coaches are holding him fully accountable for those plays. Who else is accountable? The protection needs to be better. Fine, good, great, whatever. The fumble happened after the fact. There's no one else to hold accountable.

Then on the play where the FB got pushed back into him. He was throwing the ball and then stopped and tucked the ball. THEN after he tucked it he was sacked. The ball should have been gone.

[Black Bob]

When people blame the refs it cracks me up. It makes me think they never played sports. Both teams have to deal with the refs. In most sports there isn't instant replay. In the NFL, people are literally cheating on every single play. Cheating is part of sports. In baseball they steal signs. In soccer there are flops. It's everywhere man. It's a ****ing excuse.

[BossChief]

You know what?

I will give one reason to defend Stanzi for the fumble.

Maybe he thought there was FOR SURE a flag for the facemask and thought he had a "free play" to work with and that's why he didn't throw it away.

Kinda like how a quarterback will throw a long pass into triple coverage after a offsides penalty.

****, at least the guy escaped pressure and kept his eyes downfield trying to make a play.

God forbid we ever have a quarterback that does that....

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by BossChief

You know what?

I will give one reason to defend Stanzi for the fumble.

Maybe he thought there was FOR SURE a flag for the facemask and thought he had a "free play" to work with and that's why he didn't throw it away.

Kinda like how a quarterback will throw a long pass into triple coverage after a offsides penalty.

****, at least the guy escaped pressure and kept his eyes downfield trying to make a play.

God forbid we ever have a quarterback that does that....

If he thought he had a free play he should have thrown it? It was 4th down, wasnt it? Even if he didn't have a free play an interception down the field is better than a fumble behind the LoS.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

When people blame the refs it cracks me up. It makes me think they never played sports. Both teams have to deal with the refs. In most sports there isn't instant replay. In the NFL, people are literally cheating on every single play. Cheating is part of sports. In baseball they steal signs. In soccer there are flops. It's everywhere man. It's a ****ing excuse.

How many times have you seen REAL REFS not call a blatant face mask penalty that happens to the quarterback?

FFS the guy has BOTH HANDS holding onto Stanzis facemask.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

But where are the good plays? I know he shakes it off but for what?

He did it at Iowa many times. In fact he brought their team back for wins a few times after stupid INTs. He's a Brett Farve type of QB. Notice I'm saying he is the next coming of Farve.

As for the good plays, I think he probably needs some consistent actual game snaps to get into the groove. Much like many RBs in a football game.

If I were Romeo I think I might have 3 of the 4 preseason games QBed entirely by a different QB. Do we know for sure if Stanzi would not have bounced back from a shaky start to a game and pulled off a win? When you know you are allotted a limited number of snaps in a game and it doesn't start well, you tend to force things which will most likely backfire as it did for RS last week.

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by BossChief

You know what?

I will give one reason to defend Stanzi for the fumble.

Maybe he thought there was FOR SURE a flag for the facemask and thought he had a "free play" to work with and that's why he didn't throw it away.
Kinda like how a quarterback will throw a long pass into triple coverage after a offsides penalty.

****, at least the guy escaped pressure and kept his eyes downfield trying to make a play.

God forbid we ever have a quarterback that does that....

Man o man... LOL if he did that, he needs to be cut today. That is nothing like throwing it after an offsides.

In baseball, different pitchers have different strike zones. The strike zones change with the batters. The best players get the advantage.

Remember when Flowers got called for pass interference on Johnson at the end of the Texans game in 2010? They were both tugging on each other and Johnson's was worse. Who got called? It was Flowers. The point is that the refs aren't going to be paying a whole lot of attention to a back up scrub o-linemen. It's especially pertanent in the regular season.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by jd1020

If he thought he had a free play he should have thrown it? It was 4th down, wasnt it? Even if he didn't have a free play an interception down the field is better than a fumble behind the LoS.

Please, go watch the play in full speed. Im not saying that in a rude way...I just want to you realize that Stanzi had almost no time at all to try and throw the ball after he got out of the two handed face mask grabbing DL.

The linebacker was RIGHT THERE as soon as he got outside the tackle box and closed immediately.

I agree though, he should have at least just heaved one up...like a punt with a hopeful completion.

Lets say he did that and it gets picked...lets not act as if the Planet wouldnt overreact to the pick even more than the fumble.

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by Frankie

He did it at Iowa many times. In fact he brought their team back for wins a few times after stupid INTs. He's a Brett Farve type of QB. Notice I'm saying he is the next coming of Farve.

As for the good plays, I think he probably needs some consistent actual game snaps to get into the groove. Much like many RBs in a football game.

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That's a good thing but, sometimes players don't translate to NFL. Like I said above, Leonard Pope was really good at UGA. There are alot of people that say Hershal Walker was the best college player ever and he wasn't as good in the pros.

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Please, go watch the play in full speed. Im not saying that in a rude way...I just want to you realize that Stanzi had almost no time at all to try and throw the ball after he got out of the two handed face mask grabbing DL.

The linebacker was RIGHT THERE as soon as he got outside the tackle box and closed immediately.

I agree though, he should have at least just heaved one up...like a punt with a hopeful completion.

Lets say he did that and it gets picked...lets not act as if the Planet wouldnt overreact to the pick even more than the fumble.

You gotta play the hand you're dealt and that's the bottom line.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

Man o man... LOL if he did that, he needs to be cut today. That is nothing like throwing it after an offsides.

In baseball, different pitchers have different strike zones. The strike zones change with the batters. The best players get the advantage.

Remember when Flowers got called for pass interference on Johnson at the end of the Texans game in 2010? They were both tugging on each other and Johnson's was worse. Who got called? It was Flowers. The point is that the refs aren't going to be paying a whole lot of attention to a back up scrub o-linemen. It's especially pertanent in the regular season.

God damn, you are completely football stupid.

A quarterback cant see the flag being thrown because he isnt looking for that.

His facemask was grabbed so tightly that his whole head turned more than 90 degrees...that should be called 100% of the time.

Dont give me anymore football stupid takes like "the refs arent watching backup linemen"....THE ONE PERSON THEY SHOULD ALWAYS BE WATCHING IS THE ****ING QUARTERBACK FFS.

Now, go find a tall building and please, go to the top and dive headfirst into a rusty thumbtack.

[whoman69]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

The problem was that he stared Copper down the entire play and then threw it to him even though he was double covered. Pass interference etc. is irrelevant. Stanzi porked it.

Stared him down? It was a 3 step timing throw.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Please, go watch the play in full speed.

Can't. That train wreck of a game is no longer on my DVR.