Worried: Someone tell me why we won't get murdered by Atlanta.

[O.city]

Yeah, I would too.



But I'd really like to have a great team with a great QB.


I'm not as down on Pioli as some but I'm also not as high on him as some. He's done a pretty solid job building the roster, but without the QB it might prove to be an exercise in futility.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah, I would too.



But I'd really like to have a great team with a great QB.


I'm not as down on Pioli as some but I'm also not as high on him as some. He's done a pretty solid job building the roster, but without the QB it might prove to be an exercise in futility.

His mistakes, or perhaps his non-hits if you will, have been magnified by not having a qb.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah, I would too.



But I'd really like to have a great team with a great QB.


I'm not as down on Pioli as some but I'm also not as high on him as some. He's done a pretty solid job building the roster, but without the QB it might prove to be an exercise in futility.

Who do you want him to take the past three years?

Sanchez? Clausen? Weeden?

Let's be serious, the Chiefs, under Pioli, really haven't had the opportunity to pick a first rounder that wasn't a complete reach.

I'm all for picking a QB in the first round, but let's get a good QB versus reach for a project.

Next year is the year. You've got four guys who'll get graded out as first round prospects. Cassel's contract is over in 2014. The media is now putting on the full press for a QB. So's the fan base. The 2013 draft is the one where a really good QB is going to be there for the Chiefs and it won't be a reach.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Who do you want him to take the past three years?

Sanchez? Clausen? Weeden?

Let's be serious, the Chiefs, under Pioli, really haven't had the opportunity to pick a first rounder that wasn't a complete reach.

I'm all for picking a QB in the first round, but let's get a good QB versus reach for a project.

Next year is the year. You've got four guys who'll get graded out as first round prospects. Cassel's contract is over in 2014. The media is now putting on the full press for a QB. So's the fan base. The 2013 draft is the one where a really good QB is going to be there for the Chiefs and it won't be a reach.

So you expect the Chiefs to be bad again and draft top 10 again? That's the only way they get a top QB. And even that's iffy. I've stopped worrying so much about who they draft. None of us can change anything anyways.
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[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

So you expect the Chiefs to be bad again and draft top 10 again? That's the only way they get a top QB. And even that's iffy. I've stopped worrying so much about who they draft. None of us can change anything anyways.
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All 4 QBs won't be drafted top 10.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Dave

All 4 QBs won't be drafted top 10.

Probably true. But to have a decent shot at a top guy you have to be bad. Aaron Rodgers only happen once in a blue moon.
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[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

So you expect the Chiefs to be bad again and draft top 10 again? That's the only way they get a top QB. And even that's iffy. I've stopped worrying so much about who they draft. None of us can change anything anyways.
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No, I expect one of those four guys to be there when the Chiefs pick. Barkley, Wilson, Smith or Jones. Near identical skill sets that would really fit with the team and coaching staff as it now stands. And you can throw Glennon into the mix if he has a big year. He's a very nice player as well.

Four, possibly five, QB's that are first round material. The Chiefs will have the opportunity to get one and with Cassel's contract expiring in 2014 and Quinn and Stanzi's lacklusterness, the media and fan pressure, solid young players at most positions, it's gonna happen. I'm smelling QB in 2013 for the Chiefs.

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Who do you want him to take the past three years?

Sanchez? Clausen? Weeden?

Let's be serious, the Chiefs, under Pioli, really haven't had the opportunity to pick a first rounder that wasn't a complete reach.

I'm all for picking a QB in the first round, but let's get a good QB versus reach for a project.

Next year is the year. You've got four guys who'll get graded out as first round prospects. Cassel's contract is over in 2014. The media is now putting on the full press for a QB. So's the fan base. The 2013 draft is the one where a really good QB is going to be there for the Chiefs and it won't be a reach.

Andy Dalton, Michael Vick, Russell Wilson Tj Yates, Josh Freeman off of the top of my head.

Cassel has shown without a run game he is ineffective, I would rather have any of the qb's above than Cassel

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by New World Order

Andy Dalton, Michael Vick, Russell Wilson Tj Yates, Josh Freeman off of the top of my head.

Cassel has shown without a run game he is ineffective, I would rather have any of the qb's above than Cassel

C'mon man.

If the Chiefs picked any of those guys in the first or second round, this place would have imploded and I wouldn't have touched Dog Killer with a ten foot pole when he was parolled.

That those guys worked out, and Dalton, Wilson and Freeman all have more to prove regardless, is irrelevant. Freeman was a reach and Dalton, Wilson and Yates aren't/weren't first round talents. Sometimes you are lucky and sometimes you are really lucky as the Colts were this draft.

However, there are four, maybe five guys this next draft who are basically the same player. All very good QB's. One should be available when the Chiefs pick. If they don't, they don't, but the opportunity to grab a real first round guy is going to be there this next draft. Or it should. You never know what lunatic team trades up or whathaveyou, but in a straight forward draft, this is going to be the Chiefs best opportunity to get a graded out first round guy since Aaron Rogers and Brady Quinn. (Though, oddly enough, we now have Quinn. Maybe the team is okay with/agrees with Coogs and thinks he's the QBOTF.)

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

C'mon man.

If the Chiefs picked any of those guys in the first or second round, this place would have imploded and I wouldn't have touched Dog Killer with a ten foot pole when he was parolled.

That those guys worked out, and Dalton, Wilson and Freeman all have more to prove regardless, is irrelevant. Freeman was a reach and Dalton, Wilson and Yates aren't/weren't first round talents. Sometimes you are lucky and sometimes you are really lucky as the Colts were this draft.

However, there are four, maybe five guys this next draft who are basically the same player. All very good QB's. One should be available when the Chiefs pick. If they don't, they don't, but the opportunity to grab a real first round guy is going to be there this next draft. Or it should. You never know what lunatic team trades up or whathaveyou, but in a straight forward draft, this is going to be the Chiefs best opportunity to get a graded out first round guy since Aaron Rogers and Brady Quinn. (Though, oddly enough, we now have Quinn. Maybe the team is okay with/agrees with Coogs and thinks he's the QBOTF.)

You (Or someone else) asked who I would rather have at qb and I told you.

We both know Pioli won't pick a qb in the first round. I agree it's a great idea but it will not happen.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by New World Order

You (Or someone else) asked who I would rather have at qb and I told you.

We both know Pioli won't pick a qb in the first round. I agree it's a great idea but it will not happen.

I'm not talking about hindsight you tool. There was no way that anyone was taking any of those guys for this team before they were drafted. And Vick was a total coach killer, let alone canines.

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I'm not talking about hindsight you tool. There was no way that anyone was taking any of those guys for this team before they were drafted. And Vick was a total coach killer, let alone canines.

We took Tyson Jackson