Worried: Someone tell me why we won't get murdered by Atlanta.

[Frankie]

Our D might well end up a good one as the season progresses. But I'm very very worried about the first game. Not just to lose, but to lose discouragingly big.

1- Our DL while solid has not shown signs of wreaking havoc in the opponents' backfield. Yes I'm told that's the style of 34 Romeo plays. But wait....

2- Without Tamba Hali Ryan will have all day to throw, especially considering point 1.

3- The thought of Roddy White, Julio Jones, and Gonzo, against our depleted secondary stresses me to almost puking.

This is gonna be one of those games when we see passes completed against our D with scary consistency. The only way we have any chance to win this is if we can manage long time consuming run heavy drives that would keep the Atlanta O on the bench for the majority of the game. Maybe that's why Daboll was emphasizing the run in the last preseason game so much.

Tell me something hopeful.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

I have a full time job. I post while working. I just stepped off a plane.

I was posting while I was on the plane.

I don't want to hear your excuses for failing at posting.

yea ... this sounds like a load of bullshit

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

I didn't puss out.

I don't want to see you removed from the forum for any length of time.

You're too much fun.

You are Batman and I am the Joker.

Some men...just want to watch Chiefsplanet burn.

good one

[whoman69]

I tried to create an account on ESPN to do Cowherd's Eliminator challenge just to pick Atlanta in week one. This thing is as close to a lock as you can find in the NFL. All signs point to Atlanta.

[ToxSocks]

My gut feeling says Atlanta is going to blow the Chiefs out.

This coulda been a great game if half our defense wasn't sitting out.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Bullshit excuse. Bullshit excuse. Bullshit excuse.

*Yawn*

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

the bet with Tattoo was ridiculous, and doesn't count and you know it..

And predicting that a #4 WR will catch 40 balls in a run-first offense isn't ridiculous?

Shit, you think he might grab 50.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by whoman69

I tried to create an account on ESPN to do Cowherd's Eliminator challenge just to pick Atlanta in week one. This thing is as close to a lock as you can find in the NFL. All signs point to Atlanta.

Umm, no. NFC road favorite at Arrowhead is far from a lock. They aren't in thier little Dome this week.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by PGM

Umm, no. NFC road favorite at Arrowhead is far from a lock. They aren't in thier little Dome this week.

Exactly.

I can remember a dozen times in the last 20 years that a top NFC team came in here and got beat by an inferior Chiefs team, including last year's Green Bay game.

I think Atlanta wins and my gut says by a lot. But my head is telling me history suggests otherwise.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I think Atlanta wins and my gut says by a lot. But my head is telling me history suggests otherwise.

Should I roll tape of Cassel sucking ass against the Giants and Cowboys in 2009?

That Packers game was nice, but Kyle Orton isn't walking through that door.

[Nuccah]

I'm going to tell you how to beat my Falcons:

On Offense -

Run the ****ing ball. Don't try anything to the edges, except in nickel when Asante Samuel is on the field otherwise Robinson or the OLBs will catch Charles. Go up the middle, get a blocker on Dent as he is a great tackler but doesn't shed blocks like Lofton could. If Charles is the carrier, get a blocker on the safety Moore or he will take a blow you don't want to see him take. If its Hillis, Moore is just as likely to hurt himself as Hillis.

Don't, under any circumstance, try comebacks, curls, or out-routes at Samuels or Grimes. You run a significant chance of a pick by Grimes or a pick 6 by Asante. Only elite QBs can pull those throws off on them. Play action and slants are probably your best bets. The starting CB trio of Asante, Robinson, and Grimes gave up a total of 111 yards, 0 TDs, and 2 INTs on Post and Corner routes last year, so might consider abandoning that option.

In pass protection, double Abraham and keep a close eye on Robinson. With Nolans scheme, blitzes will come from everywhere, but Moore & Robinson are especially dangerous as blitzers. Babineaux will get occasional pressure, and Peria Jerry has looked dominant so far this offseason, frequently the first player off the ball (although that has led to these replacement refs calling absurd offside penalties). He has not learned to use his hands well yet, his burst is his biggest asset.

On Defense -

The offensive line is not as big a mess as people try to make it out to be. There are, however, two weak links - Sam Baker at LT although he has looked significantly improved this preseason and Reynolds at RG who looks his usual horrid self. Don't put your best pass rusher against Clabo at RT, as he is rated by PFF as one of the best pass blocking RT's in the NFL.

Against the running game - it is all on your front 7. You won't get help from your safeties without getting completely burned by either Jones or White on a PA. None of our 'backs are particularly effective to the outside. Can catch Turner in the backfield, as he has lost a significant amount of burst. Rodgers, however, will find the creases if you try to catch him in the backfield.

Koetter's scheme is a lot more complicated than Mularkey's. The biggest problem Atlanta's OL had in the past was the absolute refusal to run screens to slow down the pass rush. This is now a big emphasis by Koetter and has been very effective throughout the preseason leading Matt Ryan to not even be touched before the 3rd game against Miami.

Matt Ryan's deep ball is still a work in progress. However, Jones must be double covered at all times as it usually takes more than one more to take him down and his open field speed is excellent (ran a 4.3x 40 with a fractured foot). White is more of a possession receiver, but can get open down field against slower/less experienced corners.

Douglas is a total wildcard. He might show up, he might not. We might look at him, we might not. Nobody ever really knows.

TG will be his usual self. Don't let Ryan have the time to find him as he is usually the 3rd option now.

[Hammock Parties]

Don't, under any circumstance, try comebacks, curls, or out-routes at Samuels or Grimes.

That's all our QB can do. That and hit 2-yard drag patterns and slants.

The starting CB trio of Asante, Robinson, and Grimes gave up a total of 111 yards, 0 TDs, and 2 INTs on Post and Corner routes last year, so might consider abandoning that option.

We abandon that option against every defense.

[mcaj22]

yea those CBs are going to jump at every piece of crap stationary route pass Cassel throws

definitely at least 2 picks for Cassel and probably a fumble for giggles as well. He will let some turd sack him because he will get rattled once he throws his first pick. Then he will go to the bench and do something stupid out of frustration like not put a ****ing hat on correctly without looking like an idiot. And thus our season in a nutshell is the Snowballing Cassel Gameday Approach

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

yea those CBs are going to jump at every piece of crap stationary route pass Cassel throws

definitely at least 2 picks for Cassel and probably a fumble for giggles as well. He will let some turd sack him because he will get rattled once he throws his first pick. Then he will go to the bench and do something stupid out of frustration like not put a ****ing hat on correctly without looking like an idiot. And thus our season in a nutshell is the Snowballing Cassel Gameday Approach

This would be a perfect game.

Especially if Dexter catches about 7 balls for 36 yards, and we score 13 points.

[O.city]

You actually want us to lose?


I get being pessimistic but why be a fan at all

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by O.city

But they have a star at QB. Legit gunslinging star, who can carry them while they continue to build the roster into what they want. It's that part that Pioli seems to be really great at doing. He's built a talented, while unproven at alot of places, roster. He just went about it the wrong way, if that makes any sense.

And I ask again, who was he supposed to take at QB that would have justified the pick?

We weren't getting Stafford. We weren't getting Bradford. We weren't getting Luck or Griffin.

So...Sanchez? Tebow? Clausen? Weeden?

You dont' pick a QB just to pick a QB. You don't reach for a position just to pick that said position. And if they picked up a guy like Dalton, Foles, Wilson, etc., there is about a 98.9% chance that they were going to be second or third string anyway.

Especially when you had a quarterback on roster who was fresh off a Pro Bowl appearance in 2010.

They picked up Stanzi because he represented the best pick for the team right then and there. Other than that, you could argue that the guys they picked were better players for the team needs versus a QB at the various spots.

However, as Cassel is nearing the end of his contract (2014), Quinn hasn't necessarily distinguished himself and Stanzi is only a second year guy, I can see them looking at the position earnestly in the 2013 draft where there are four, maybe five guys who will end up with first round grades, not including the potential juniors who could, which might be up to three that would receive high draft grades as well. It's a monster QB class just considering the seniors.

They/he (Pioli) has ignored the QB position because he really didn't need to address it to this point because Cassel is a decent (not great) QB who had a Pro Bowl level season in 2010 and there really wasn't a guaranteed starter stud that they could have selected when they have picked the past three drafts. That's going to change this next draft - possibly.