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Old 10-02-2012, 08:22 PM   #1
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Any GM can have good picks and trades, that is true. Pioli is no Superman to reinvent the draft. My point is that if you compared Pioli's drafts to those of other GMs in the same period, he would stack up favorably.
Jury is still out. None of his picks have really turned into anything special... yet! A couple do show promise, but from 4 years of draft picks you would hope more than a couple would stand out. Best players are still arguably holdovers from the previous regime.
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Old 10-02-2012, 08:34 PM   #2
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Jury is still out. None of his picks have really turned into anything special... yet! A couple do show promise, but from 4 years of draft picks you would hope more than a couple would stand out. Best players are still arguably holdovers from the previous regime.
The jury is NOT out.

McCluster, Arena and Moeaki were all bad selections. The 2009 draft was pathetic. 2011, outside of Houston and a rarely used Bailey has been just as bad as 2009. And 2012's draft has failed to yield any sort of game changer.

Pioli has sucked ass. You'd think there would be an abundance of talent on this roster, especially given that he's selected 3rd, 5th and 11th three drafts and in every round, but he hasn't done dick.

He blows.
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Old 10-02-2012, 08:40 PM   #3
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The jury is NOT out.

McCluster, Arena and Moeaki were all bad selections. The 2009 draft was pathetic. 2011, outside of Houston and a rarely used Bailey has been just as bad as 2009. And 2012's draft has failed to yield any sort of game changer.

Pioli has sucked ass. You'd think there would be an abundance of talent on this roster, especially given that he's selected 3rd, 5th and 11th three drafts and in every round, but he hasn't done dick.

He blows.
I was trying to be kind.
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Old 10-02-2012, 08:41 PM   #4
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... You'd think there would be an abundance of talent on this roster, especially given that he's selected 3rd, 5th and 11th three drafts and in every round ...
That's the key, right there.

We've had pretty high selections each year and we've picked like we're playing blind craps. When you look at the "draft" quality of our defensive front 7, we should be dominating ... not domino-ing.

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Old 10-02-2012, 08:45 PM   #5
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That's the key, right there.

We've had pretty high selections each year and we've picked like we're playing blind craps. When you look at the "draft" quality of our defensive front 7, we should be dominating ... not domino-ing.

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Had Pioli taken Washington and Joseph (let alone, offensive gems like Hernandez or Graham), this defense would be much further along. Instead, we're stuck with a tiny receiver that makes 3 yard catches and a returner.
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:25 PM   #6
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Had Pioli taken Washington and Joseph (let alone, offensive gems like Hernandez or Graham), this defense would be much further along. Instead, we're stuck with a tiny receiver that makes 3 yard catches and a returner.
Arenas had the third highest average on returns last year behind Peterson and Hester and is a good nickel.

Could we have done better? Yeah, probably...but let's try to be fair and not expect them to make the perfect pick with every selection. That's totally unrealistic.

I hated the Dexter pick, but the guy has been productive and has the best combination of hands and route running of any of our receivers and is tough as **** for such a little guy.

I absolutely think he will be VERY productive once we get a qb in here.

Look, I know this year has been beyond disappointing, but let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:33 PM   #7
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Arenas had the third highest average on returns last year behind Peterson and Hester and is a good nickel.
Big ****ing deal. How many touchdowns did he score? Is he a capable starter?

When you're traded for a HOFer, it's always going to be a tough road but he ****ing sucks. No one would notice if he were cut tomorrow.

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Could we have done better? Yeah, probably...but let's try to be fair and not expect them to make the perfect pick with every selection. That's totally unrealistic.
Probably? Are you ****ing kidding me? I'd Jason Worilds, Carlos Dunlap, Terrence Cody, Sean Lee, Ben Tate, Golden Tate and Brandon Spikes over Arenas. And that's just guys that went in the second round!

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I hated the Dexter pick, but the guy has been productive and has the best combination of hands and route running of any of our receivers and is tough as **** for such a little guy.
Productive? Yeah, he's been productive but at the expense of Steve Breaston, the tight ends (you name them), Jon Baldwin and of course, Dwayne Bowe.

Without McCluster (who was overdrafted by at least 3 rounds), Cassel would have totally ****ing sucked in 2010 and wouldn't be here in 2012.

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I absolutely think he will be VERY productive once we get a qb in here.
He'll be an afterthought, as he should be.
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:51 PM   #8
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Arenas had the third highest average on returns last year behind Peterson and Hester and is a good nickel.
Arenas sucks ****ing horse cock as a cornerback.

He got toasted in New Orleans on a deep ball, got toasted against the Chargers for a TD.

Read it and weep.



Add Arenas to the pile of Pioli fail! And he only played 17 snaps last week. Great use of a high pick.
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Add Arenas to the pile of Pioli fail! And he only played 17 snaps last week. Great use of a high pick.
The worst part is that he passed on some great players at NEED positions.

****ing Pioli. I hate him more today than in 2009. And that's saying a lot.
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:21 PM   #10
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Arenas sucks ****ing horse cock as a cornerback.

He got toasted in New Orleans on a deep ball, got toasted against the Chargers for a TD.

Read it and weep.



Add Arenas to the pile of Pioli fail! And he only played 17 snaps last week. Great use of a high pick.
You can't even tell how that's sorted. How about sorting it by coverage?

Also, he is rated about the same as Carlos Rodgers, who is pretty good.

I would also EXPECT our corners not to be rated extremely high with such a small sample size of 4 games and having faced 3 franchise quarterbacks in those 4 games.
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