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Old 10-02-2012, 11:00 PM   #1
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50 is damn good for a corner.

Post that sorted column, please.
Being rated the 50th best corner, out of 80 corners, and having a negative coverage rating IS NOT GOOD.

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Old 10-02-2012, 11:04 PM   #2
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Being rated the 50th best corner, out of 80 corners, and having a negative coverage rating IS NOT GOOD.
I knew you wouldn't post it.

We have faced 3 franchise quarterbacks in 4 weeks and he hasn't been bad in coverage.

What is Carrs ranking after he got destroyed by Chicago and Brandon Marshall?...iirc he was like 29th before that game.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:19 PM   #3
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Give me a break. He was terrible. He couldn't work with anybody, he even ran off the only guy who made the offense work. That was a horrible hire, and even if Haley were an average coach that's still a bad hire because Pioli hired a guy he apparently hated. It made no sense from the get go.

Romeo was an even worse hire, apparently. Pioli cannot choose the next coach of this team, period.
I'm not a fan of the Romeo hire, but Haley had the team in shape and focused...something that is totally lost now. Look at all theinor injuries we have this year and how many penalties we have opposed to when Haley was coaching.

If we had a quarterback, who knows what happens, but you have to think we would have won the division twice in a row (we were a game off of that last year) and who knows how much else would be effected.

The Steelers forced Arians out and hired the guy because he is a quality coach, not because he sucks and is terrible.
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Pioli has had an opportunity
to draft 28 players. He has had FOUR offseasons in which to sign other team's free agents.

Name the game consistent game changing players.

Thanks.
You know as well as I do that injuries have impacted that significantly.

Berry and Moeaki were both budding stars as rookies and are still recovering from major injury that cost them their second years.

Houston is a ****ing beast that would have been a great pick if he was taken in the top 10...and we stole him with a profit pick from a trade down.

Succop is a damn fine kicker that has made his last 5 kicks over 50 yards (I added this for flare)

Other than that, Pioli has hit a bunch of singles and doubles, which is what you want.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:21 PM   #4
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Berry and Moeaki were both budding stars as rookies and are still recovering from major injury that cost them their second years.
At this point, both of them suck, and we have no idea what the future may hold for either.

They have to be counted against Pioli right now.

Especially Moeaki, who had a history of injury coming out.

Jeff Allen had a dogshit game Sunday, too.

And Jon Baldwin's impact on this offense has been minimal. Though, in his defense, greater than McCluster so far.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:25 PM   #5
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At this point, both of them suck, and we have no idea what the future may hold for either.

They have to be counted against Pioli right now.

Especially Moeaki, who had a history of injury coming out.

Jeff Allen had a dogshit game Sunday, too.

And Jon Baldwin's impact on this offense has been minimal. Though, in his defense, greater than McCluster so far.
His fatal flaw is his handling of Cassel.

He needs to find a way to fix the qb position to save his job. His only hope at this point is Stanzi because we all know what Cassel and Quinn are.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:27 PM   #6
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His fatal flaw is his handling of Cassel.
I agree, but his drafts are looking worse and worse, and don't forget shitty head coaching hires.

There's not a lot to go on that actually suggests Pioli is a good GM.

At best you can say he's done an average job of improving the roster and horrible decisions at HC and QB have resulted in failure.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:46 PM   #7
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I agree, but his drafts are looking worse and worse, and don't forget shitty head coaching hires.

There's not a lot to go on that actually suggests Pioli is a good GM.

At best you can say he's done an average job of improving the roster and horrible decisions at HC and QB have resulted in failure.
Guys like:

Asamoah
Baldwin
McCluster
Winston
Breaston

Would be showing their true value if we didn't have a worthless turd at quarterback.

Don't forget, Orton had 2 300 yard games with these guys and no running game and he is mediocre.

If we find a way to get Geno Smith, these guys are gonna blow the **** up and the rest of the team will play energized and will seem to have "woken up" they have given up on Cassel just as we have.
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Old 10-03-2012, 02:29 AM   #8
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At this point, both of them suck, and we have no idea what the future may hold for either.

They have to be counted against Pioli right now.

Especially Moeaki, who had a history of injury coming out.

Jeff Allen had a dogshit game Sunday, too.

And Jon Baldwin's impact on this offense has been minimal. Though, in his defense, greater than McCluster so far.
I agree with the overall point. I do disagree on holding Berry against him. When healthy he looked great year 1. Not to mention everyone said he was the pick and loved that we got him. Even said that Pioli shouldn't get credit because it was so obvious. I don't mind not giving him love because anybody would have taken Berry. I do think its harsh to say somebody made a mistake in taking Berry, especially after year 1. There are tons of things we can throw against Pioli. Don't have to make it seem like Berry was a mistake. Even if he somehow doesn't work out I am never going to blame this organization for taking him.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:23 PM   #9
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You know as well as I do that injuries have impacted that significantly.

Berry and Moeaki were both budding stars as rookies and are still recovering from major injury that cost them their second years.

Houston is a ****ing beast that would have been a great pick if he was taken in the top 10...and we stole him with a profit pick from a trade down.

Succop is a damn fine kicker that has made his last 5 kicks over 50 yards (I added this for flare)

Other than that, Pioli has hit a bunch of singles and doubles, which is what you want.
So, four guys out of 28 draftees? That's average?



Succop? Totally unnecessary when Barth was on the roster.

Let's talk about the guys that Pioli unceremoniously cut.

How great would Babin have been opposite Hali? How about Pollard and Berry? And don't give a shit about Moeaki. What about Tom Crabtree? I'd take him over ****ing O'Connell!

Pioli passed on Graham, Hernandez and Gronk but traded up for an often injured Moeaki and he's supposed to get CREDIT for that?

Net gain: Houston.

ONE ****ING PLAYER IN FOUR DRAFTS! Woo-****ing-hoo!
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:37 PM   #10
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So, four guys out of 28 draftees? That's average?



Succop? Totally unnecessary when Barth was on the roster.

Let's talk about the guys that Pioli unceremoniously cut.

How great would Babin have been opposite Hali? How about Pollard and Berry? And don't give a shit about Moeaki. What about Tom Crabtree? I'd take him over ****ing O'Connell!

Pioli passed on Graham, Hernandez and Gronk but traded up for an often injured Moeaki and he's supposed to get CREDIT for that?

Net gain: Houston.

ONE ****ING PLAYER IN FOUR DRAFTS! Woo-****ing-hoo!
Jason Babin credits the scheme for his emergence. He has said multiple times that
this is the scheme he dominated in college at and that he really doesnt fit other ones. There is some merit to the fact that we maybe should have been the ones to realize that and not changed schemes and jettisoned him, but the guy was a bust before he got to KC and he still was one when he left...it's whatever.

I was one of the handful of guys that was pissed when Pollard was cut and he is now on a defense where he is used correctly (I have lots of posts from 2009 detailing how he SHOULD have been used and they are exactly how the Ravens use him now)...those two with Lewis as the third safety would have been ****ing great.

How much different do Gronk, Graham and Hernandez look because of Tom ****ing Brady and Drew Brees?...and how would Moeaki look in their positions? That gets us full circle on the fatal flaw point.
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I'm not a fan of the Romeo hire, but Haley had the team in shape and focused...something that is totally lost now. Look at all theinor injuries we have this year and how many penalties we have opposed to when Haley was coaching.

If we had a quarterback, who knows what happens, but you have to think we would have won the division twice in a row (we were a game off of that last year) and who knows how much else would be effected.

The Steelers forced Arians out and hired the guy because he is a quality coach, not because he sucks and is terrible.
The team looked exactly the same under Haley as it does right now, with the exception of when Weis was calling the plays. Other than that one season, they've looked like garbage and still do.

The Steelers forced Arians out for whatever reason, and now Todd's got an easy job. I congratulate him on his connections, but there wasn't anything wrong with their offense to begin with.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:41 PM   #12
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The team looked exactly the same under Haley as it does right now, with the exception of when Weis was calling the plays. Other than that one season, they've looked like garbage and still do.

The Steelers forced Arians out for whatever reason, and now Todd's got an easy job. I congratulate him on his connections, but there wasn't anything wrong with their offense to begin with.
The Steelers forced BA out and brought in Haley because they know he was in a position where positive results were next to impossible and they recognized that he is a good coach that could make a difference for them.

Don't give me that "connections" shit, either. It's silly to think they would force a coach out (that is now a head coach on an interim basis) and brought in his replacements because of who his dad is.
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