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Old 10-01-2012, 07:17 AM  
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:33 PM   #136
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It's sorted by overall player rating. His coverage rating bumps him up to 50.

He sucks dude. Accept it.

He's a decent punt returner who can't break the big play, and a very pedestrian nickel who has 0 ability to start.

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Old 10-02-2012, 10:34 PM   #137
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Tell that to the Super Bowl winning 2007 New York Giants. Now, tell me that they'd even BE in that game without Steve Smith, Kevin Boss, Ahmad Bradshaw, etc. and so on.

Pioli is paid $5 MILLION PER YEAR. He's SUPPOSED to be BETTER than EVERYONE ELSE IN THE NFL.

He's not. He's a ****ing oxygen thief stealing Chiefs fans money and worse, TIME!

**** him.
The giants won because of Eli Manning and a bunch of role players.

This Chiefs team would be in the hunt with a quarterback.

I don't think the rest of the roster is that big of a problem at all. Right now, they play as if they don't have a leader because they don't.

Also realize that you harp about Pioli taking role players and then champion a bunch of role player picks of NYs as proof of their superior drafting...

Go look at their draft history http://www.databasefootball.com/draf...?tm=NYG&lg=NFL show me all these drafts that they hit on most of their picks.

The big difference? Franchise quarterback.
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:36 PM   #138
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It's sorted by overall player rating. His coverage rating bumps him up to 50.

He sucks dude. Accept it.

He's a decent punt returner who can't break the big play, and a very pedestrian nickel who has 0 ability to start.

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50 is damn good for a corner.

Post that sorted column, please.
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:44 PM   #139
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The giants won because of Eli Manning and a bunch of role players.

This Chiefs team would be in the hunt with a quarterback.
You fail to address the problem: Pioli.

His drafts have been below average, his free agent acquisitions have been far below average, his coaching hires have been poor and his choice of QB an abomination.
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:59 PM   #140
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You fail to address the problem: Pioli.

His drafts have been below average, his free agent acquisitions have been far below average, his coaching hires have been poor and his choice of QB an abomination.
I totally disagree on the first two, Haley was perceived as a poor head coach because he was forced to do desperate things due to lacking talent and ability of the quarterback he was forcefed.

I am in complete agreement that Cassel is and has been a horrible aquisition and that singular move overshadows everything else he has done.

Ultimately, that alone should probably get him canned.

I'm sticking to my guns that I think he is an above average drafter and average (maybe a hair above) at bringing in free agents.

His fatal flaw is his handling of the quarterback position.

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50 is damn good for a corner.

Post that sorted column, please.
Being rated the 50th best corner, out of 80 corners, and having a negative coverage rating IS NOT GOOD.

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I totally disagree on the first two,
Pioli has had an opportunity to draft 28 players. He has had FOUR offseasons in which to sign other team's free agents.

Name the game consistent game changing players.

Thanks.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:04 PM   #143
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I totally disagree on the first two, Haley was perceived as a poor head coach because he was forced to do desperate things due to lacking talent and ability of the quarterback he was forcefed.
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Give me a break. He was terrible. He couldn't work with anybody, he even ran off the only guy who made the offense work. That was a horrible hire, and even if Haley were an average coach that's still a bad hire because Pioli hired a guy he apparently hated. It made no sense from the get go.

Romeo was an even worse hire, apparently. Pioli cannot choose the next coach of this team, period.
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Being rated the 50th best corner, out of 80 corners, and having a negative coverage rating IS NOT GOOD.
I knew you wouldn't post it.

We have faced 3 franchise quarterbacks in 4 weeks and he hasn't been bad in coverage.

What is Carrs ranking after he got destroyed by Chicago and Brandon Marshall?...iirc he was like 29th before that game.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:10 PM   #145
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Marty wouldnt be of any more help than Marv Levy or Bill Parcells or any other big on advice, small on taking hands on action "consultants" through the years.

If the GM & Head Coach need a consultant, you're ****ed with or without one.
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You fail to address the problem: Pioli.

His drafts have been below average, his free agent acquisitions have been far below average, his coaching hires have been poor and his choice of QB an abomination.
THIS...
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That was a horrible hire, and even if Haley were an average coach that's still a bad hire because Pioli hired a guy he apparently hated. It made no sense from the get go.
I never understood that...
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I never understood that...
Nepotism.

His Father-In-Law recommended that Pioli hire Haley. Since Pioli doesn't have one single creative thought in his fat ****ing bald head, he followed Parcells advice.

Hilarity ensued.
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Give me a break. He was terrible. He couldn't work with anybody, he even ran off the only guy who made the offense work. That was a horrible hire, and even if Haley were an average coach that's still a bad hire because Pioli hired a guy he apparently hated. It made no sense from the get go.

Romeo was an even worse hire, apparently. Pioli cannot choose the next coach of this team, period.
I'm not a fan of the Romeo hire, but Haley had the team in shape and focused...something that is totally lost now. Look at all theinor injuries we have this year and how many penalties we have opposed to when Haley was coaching.

If we had a quarterback, who knows what happens, but you have to think we would have won the division twice in a row (we were a game off of that last year) and who knows how much else would be effected.

The Steelers forced Arians out and hired the guy because he is a quality coach, not because he sucks and is terrible.
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to draft 28 players. He has had FOUR offseasons in which to sign other team's free agents.

Name the game consistent game changing players.

Thanks.
You know as well as I do that injuries have impacted that significantly.

Berry and Moeaki were both budding stars as rookies and are still recovering from major injury that cost them their second years.

Houston is a ****ing beast that would have been a great pick if he was taken in the top 10...and we stole him with a profit pick from a trade down.

Succop is a damn fine kicker that has made his last 5 kicks over 50 yards (I added this for flare)

Other than that, Pioli has hit a bunch of singles and doubles, which is what you want.
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Nepotism.

His Father-In-Law recommended that Pioli hire Haley. Since Pioli doesn't have one single creative thought in his fat ****ing bald head, he followed Parcells advice.

Hilarity ensued.
This seems like the most plausible explanation, especially considering Haley worked for Parcells in two different cities.

Trading for Cassel was very similar to what Parcells did as soon as he arrived in Miami, too, with Chad Pennington.

How it went down in Miami and how it's gone down in KC have really been quite similar. That franchise was lucky to get rid of all their Patriotards fairly quickly, though.
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