A Change Gonna Come

[BigRock]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'll take the guy that has worked his way up in one of the best organizations in all of football regarding free agency, the draft and the hiring of coaches over the guy that rode the coattails of his father-in-law and his cronies.

Yeah. Pioli didn't work his way up. Jesus.

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Different paths to the top. DeCosta was a scout, then he was Director of College Scouting then Director of Player Personal.

Pioli was a scout with Cleveland. Pioli was a Director of Player Personel with the Jets and Pats. The lone difference is that DeCosta did entirely college, while Pioli did college and pro evaluations as he came up. They're very similar paths.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by BigRock

Pioli was a scout with Cleveland. Pioli was a Director of Player Personel with the Jets and Pats. The lone difference is that DeCosta did entirely college, while Pioli did college and pro evaluations as he came up. They're very similar paths.

Pioli has never been a scout.
http://media.kcchiefs.com/front-offi...l-manager.aspx

[BigRock]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Pioli has never been a scout.
http://media.kcchiefs.com/front-offi...l-manager.aspx

Are we getting technical over scout and assistant scout? He came up on the player personnel side. Those guys scout players. Most of Pioli's job for 10+ years has been flying around the country scouting.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BigRock

Are we getting technical over scout and assistant scout? He came up on the player personnel side. Those guys scout players. Most of Pioli's job for 10+ years has been flying around the country scouting.

No, it hasn't.

Regional scouts and national scouts turn in reports and do the true legwork. Pioli doesn't spend his Saturdays at college football venues.

Furthermore, the mother****er tossed the scouting information collected by Chuck Cook and the Chiefs and instead, used his New England scouting reports for the 2009 draft.

Great job, Scott!

[DaWolf]

Originally Posted by BigRock

Yeah. Pioli didn't work his way up. Jesus.



Pioli was a scout with Cleveland. Pioli was a Director of Player Personel with the Jets and Pats. The lone difference is that DeCosta did entirely college, while Pioli did college and pro evaluations as he came up. They're very similar paths.

The thing that worries me about DeCosta, and which should have worried me about Pioli, is that they both were comfortable staying in their successful environments and turning down other job offers. To me, when a guy starts to get comfortable where he is, where everything is set up nicely and they are a nice cog in the equation, and aren't sure if they want to leave that comfort to go push themselves and challenge themselves, it should raise alarm bells. If a guy is comfortable ruling their little piece of the kingdom while someone else runs the whole show, I worry about what that means from a leadership standpoint.

I'm sure at some point someone will offer DeCosta a boatload of money, and it may be enough to pull him away from BMore, but what happens when he goes somewhere where he doesn't have the same scouts, the same owner, the same office, when an entire organization is looking at him for leadership, where he doesn't have Ray Lewis and Joe Flacco on the field? How will he react? How will he lead? If I am Clark Hunt, that's my question to the guy if I'm interviewing him (of course if I am Clark Hunt, I am showing more leadership myself)...

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BigRock

Yeah. Pioli didn't work his way up. Jesus.

You're a ****ing moron.

Instead of hyperbole, why don't you give specific examples? Or is that above your pay grade?

Originally Posted by BigRock

Pioli was a scout with Cleveland. Pioli was a Director of Player Personel with the Jets and Pats. The lone difference is that DeCosta did entirely college, while Pioli did college and pro evaluations as he came up. They're very similar paths.

And just look at the personnel record during his stints with Cleveland, the Jets and the patriots.

HUGE difference between those and Baltimore.

And who really gives a **** about DeCosta, anyway? That idea is way past discussing, since he's not leaving Baltimore.

[BigRock]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You're a ****ing moron.

Instead of hyperbole, why don't you give specific examples? Or is that above your pay grade?

I'm sorry, I didn't realize that I needed to provide specifics of Scott Pioli's career path for you, given that a) he's been our GM for four years and we should be pretty familiar with him by now, and b) someone else had JUST DONE SO a few posts above me. In response to the exact same post I was replying to, no less.

Of course, given that you were spouting off ignorant bullshit about Pioli's record in New England, I should have recognized that you didn't have the first ****ing clue what you were talking about. I'm actually sort of embarrassed, because by now it should be painfully obvious that for a guy who's so convinced of his own brilliance, you're almost constantly talking out of your ass about things you have no understanding of.

And just to prove that point for me, you responded to the post that DID have specifics by only further demonstrating your laughable grasp of the topic.

PIOLI FOLLOWED PARCELLS TO NEW YORK, DURR HURRR. Really? Followed him from where? HOW MANY FIRST ROUND QBS DID PIOLI DRAFT, DURR HURR. Hey! Moron! He wasn't making the picks. Do you need ****ing flash cards here?

That sounds good, actually. Maybe I'll have some cards made up for you. Don't worry, we'll start off easy. One card will have a picture of a hole in the ground, and another will have a picture of your ass. And after a few weeks of intensive study, maybe you'll finally be able to tell the difference.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BigRock

I'm sorry, I didn't realize that I needed to provide specifics of Scott Pioli's career path for you, given that a) he's been our GM for four years and we should be pretty familiar with him by now, and b) someone else had JUST DONE SO a few posts above me. In response to the exact same post I was replying to, no less.

Of course, given that you were spouting off ignorant bullshit about Pioli's record in New England, I should have recognized that you didn't have the first ****ing clue what you were talking about. I'm actually sort of embarrassed, because by now it should be painfully obvious that for a guy who's so convinced of his own brilliance, you're almost constantly talking out of your ass about things you have no understanding of.

And just to prove that point for me, you responded to the post that DID have specifics by only further demonstrating your laughable grasp of the topic.

PIOLI FOLLOWED PARCELLS TO NEW YORK, DURR HURRR. Really? Followed him from where? HOW MANY FIRST ROUND QBS DID PIOLI DRAFT, DURR HURR. Hey! Moron! He wasn't making the picks. Do you need ****ing flash cards here?

That sounds good, actually. Maybe I'll have some cards made up for you. Don't worry, we'll start off easy. One card will have a picture of a hole in the ground, and another will have a picture of your ass. And after a few weeks of intensive study, maybe you'll finally be able to tell the difference.

I was right earlier: You're dumb ****.

Good luck with that, ****.

[BigRock]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I was right earlier: You're dumb ****.

You know what? I'll give you this. Just so you can say you were right about something.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BigRock

You know what? I'll give you this. Just so you can say you were right about something.

I've never been right about anything.

Pioli's a genius. Thanks for the insight.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I've never been right about anything.

Uh huh.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Jesus, Dude, you need to chill the **** out.

This is, by far, THE best Chiefs team since you began posting on the 'Planet, yet you're Mr. ****ing Negative Dickwad in every thread.

Lighten up and enjoy what could be a badass ride.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This line is giving Cassel plenty of time to make good decisions.

Maybe he WILL be Trent Green 2.0 after all...

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Now, I'm not making any predictions but I think this team has a chance, despite Cassel, to make a little noise this year.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

7-9 would be a major disappointment, IMO. If this team is healthy, I think a playoff win is likely, even with Cassel at the helm. They're just loaded at talent at nearly every position and young players like Allen, Poe and Menzie may surpass the veterans ahead of them earlier than some might expect.

And the defense could be special.

[BigRock]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I've never been right about anything.

Pioli's a genius. Thanks for the insight.

Really?

You're going to make some weak attempt at saving face by falling back on a strawman? I pointed out how full of shit you are, so I'm saying that Pioli is a genius? Wow. Good work. That'll fool everyone.

This isn't even fun. It's like boxing a one-armed man.