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Old 10-11-2012, 09:28 AM   #1
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Old 10-11-2012, 09:29 AM   #2
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Tony Moeaki has been invisible because of the gameplan.....not his injury.
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Old 10-11-2012, 09:37 AM   #3
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Tony Moeaki has been invisible because of the gameplan.....not his injury.
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He is still a good blocker, his block propelled JC to the 91 yard TD in NO.
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Old 10-11-2012, 10:07 AM   #4
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This.

He is still a good blocker, his block propelled JC to the 91 yard TD in NO.
He is a rotten blocker, and if you watch the games, you will see it.
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Old 10-11-2012, 10:29 AM   #5
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What is JJ Watt rating? Some people talk of him like he's playing way way better than any other defensive player out there. But I have trouble believing he can be rated much better than Von Miller with his +30.

Not that I consider PFF to be real accurate by the way.
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Old 10-11-2012, 10:32 AM   #6
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What is JJ Watt rating? Some people talk of him like he's playing way way better than any other defensive player out there. But I have trouble believing he can be rated much better than Von Miller with his +30.

Not that I consider PFF to be real accurate by the way.
Dorsey + Jackson + Bailey + Poe x 75 million = Watt's rating
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Old 10-11-2012, 10:34 AM   #7
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What is JJ Watt rating? Some people talk of him like he's playing way way better than any other defensive player out there. But I have trouble believing he can be rated much better than Von Miller with his +30.

Not that I consider PFF to be real accurate by the way.
Watt has a 35.4 PFF Rating, Miller has a 31.0.

Watt, Miller, and Cameron Wake are the highest graded players on PFF by a wide margin.
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Old 10-11-2012, 10:35 AM   #8
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Watt has a 35.4 PFF Rating, Miller has a 31.0
Ok one last, what is Dontari Poe's rating?
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Old 10-11-2012, 12:44 PM   #9
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Watt has a 35.4 PFF Rating, Miller has a 31.0.

Watt, Miller, and Cameron Wake are the highest graded players on PFF by a wide margin.
What about Patrick Peterson since he came out with Watt and Miller?
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Old 10-11-2012, 10:35 AM   #10
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What is JJ Watt rating? Some people talk of him like he's playing way way better than any other defensive player out there. But I have trouble believing he can be rated much better than Von Miller with his +30.

Not that I consider PFF to be real accurate by the way.
Well, let's start with the fact that you are a shitdick on the internet who doesn't know shit, so you can shut the **** up about PFF.

And second, JJ Watt has a 35.4, has 9 goddamn sacks and also leads the run defense rankings.
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Well, let's start with the fact that you are a shitdick on the internet who doesn't know shit, so you can shut the **** up about PFF.

And second, JJ Watt has a 35.4, has 9 goddamn sacks and also leads the run defense rankings.
He leads the run defense ratings for 3-4 DEs. There are 2 players that are higher in run defense:

Brandon Mebane and...











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Old 10-11-2012, 10:33 AM   #13
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He is still a good blocker, his block propelled JC to the 91 yard TD in NO.
I didn't pay attention to him on that run, but the first few games of the year he was bad.
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Old 10-11-2012, 10:35 AM   #14
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Tony Moeaki has been invisible because of the gameplan.....not his injury.
I don't agree with that.

Prior to last week's shitfest, we were spending a whole lot of time chucking the ball to the mid-range and short range targets (i.e. Moeaki). Moeaki was out there on most of those routes and yet wasn't getting any separation at all.

When balls do get to him, he drops them.

Moeaki hasn't been merely invisible, he's been awful. His injury likely plays a large role in that, but it's certainly been more than just gameplanning that has made him wholly ineffective.
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Old 10-11-2012, 09:31 AM   #15
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Tony Moeaki disagrees.
Tony is a ****ing walking injury.

We knew that when we drafted him. We drafted him anyway.

He should never, EVAR, be a starting TE.

At best he's a great pass option that should only be subbed in to take advantage of matchups. He's a situational player.

Another Pioli fail...
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