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Old 10-29-2012, 11:21 AM   #1
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This is one military tradition that I've never really understood. I have all the respect in the world for our military force. But why make these poor guys stand motionless out there in bad weather? What point does that make? We all know these guys are dedicated and committed, and a helluva lot tougher than me. But this just seems completely unnecessary. What if a hurricane hits them out there? Should we really risk their lives just to make a point about how tough and committed they are?

Sorry, no disrespect to soldiers. I just can't understand how this is justified these days.
The guys standing guard know they have friends and fellows that have it a lot worse off than they do somewhere else in the world. It's for them and those that came before them that they stand watch.
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:46 AM   #2
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This is one military tradition that I've never really understood. I have all the respect in the world for our military force. But why make these poor guys stand motionless out there in bad weather? What point does that make? We all know these guys are dedicated and committed, and a helluva lot tougher than me. But this just seems completely unnecessary. What if a hurricane hits them out there? Should we really risk their lives just to make a point about how tough and committed they are?

Sorry, no disrespect to soldiers. I just can't understand how this is justified these days.
You are right Fish. You don't understand.
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:32 PM   #3
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This is one military tradition that I've never really understood. I have all the respect in the world for our military force. But why make these poor guys stand motionless out there in bad weather? What point does that make? We all know these guys are dedicated and committed, and a helluva lot tougher than me. But this just seems completely unnecessary. What if a hurricane hits them out there? Should we really risk their lives just to make a point about how tough and committed they are?

Sorry, no disrespect to soldiers. I just can't understand how this is justified these days.
They guard the tomb out of respect, Mr. KC Fish. There really isn't any more to it than that and they require no other reason.

But I fear that, as time goes on, the concept of respect becomes stranger and makes less sense to more people. In fact, I would venture to say that respect is something that few people truly understand anymore.

You know, the ancient Greeks had this extremely important concept called "sophrosyne". Unfortunately, that word can no longer be translated by any single English word.

This quality, "sophrosyne" was, to the Greeks, an ideal second to none in importance. But it is no longer counted among our ideals. We have simply lost the conception of it. We can sort of describe its parts (after a fashion), but we cannot name it or properly define it. It is a human quality that, once revered, no longer exists.

I have a theory that the same thing is eventually going to happen with our Western concept of respect. At some point in the future, it will be an extinct idea to feel or hold "respect" for another human being.

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Old 10-29-2012, 12:36 PM   #4
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But I fear that, as time goes on, the concept of respect becomes stranger and makes less sense to more people. In fact, I would venture to say that respect is something that few people truly understand anymore.



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Old 10-29-2012, 02:41 PM   #5
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..sadly, it's already happening...going into Arrowhead yesterday....NA starts..I stop and put my hand on my heart....was about the only one ..hundreds didn't stop...it was like it meant nothing....
That shit irritates the hell outta me! "Take off your damn hat and shut the hell up!"
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..sadly, it's already happening...going into Arrowhead yesterday....NA starts..I stop and put my hand on my heart....was about the only one ..hundreds didn't stop...it was like it meant nothing....
My wife and I were walking the concourse at the Royals game last year, and we heard the NA begin. Without even saying something to each other, we stopped and removed our hats and place them over our hearts and faced the flag (where we thought it would be).

Meanwhile asshats walked by, and even grumbled to us to get out of the way. Though, we did have an ol timer shake our hands afterwards. Made my day.

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Old 10-29-2012, 12:36 PM   #7
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I have a theory that the same thing is eventually going to happen with our Western concept of respect. At some point in the future, it will be an extinct idea to feel or hold "respect" for another human being.

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Old 10-29-2012, 12:37 PM   #8
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They guard the tomb out of respect, Mr. KC Fish. There really isn't any more to it than that and they require no other reason.

But I fear that, as time goes on, the concept of respect becomes stranger and makes less sense to more people. In fact, I would venture to say that respect is something that few people truly understand anymore.

You know, the ancient Greeks had this extremely important concept called "sophrosyne". Unfortunately, that word can no longer be translated by any single English word.

This quality, "sophrosyne" was, to the Greeks, an ideal second to none in importance. But it is no longer counted among our ideals. We have simply lost the conception of it. We can sort of describe its parts (after a fashion), but we cannot name it or properly define it. It is a human quality that, once revered, no longer exists.

I have a theory that the same thing is eventually going to happen with our Western concept of respect. At some point in the future, it will be an extinct idea to feel or hold "respect" for another human being.

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Old 10-29-2012, 12:43 PM   #9
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It's not the idea of respect, it's the idea that THAT is how respect manifests itself
Yeah, I think this is where my confusion rests.
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:48 PM   #10
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Yeah, I think this is where my confusion rests.
What do you want them to do, just put up a plaque that everyone will ignore?
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Yeah, I think this is where my confusion rests.
Again, I agree - it's not logical. But if you have trouble understanding the purpose of guarding the Tomb of the Unknowns, I'd imagine you'd have similar feelings toward just about every monument we have. After all, what does a giant, phallic hunk of rock have to do with George Washington for example? Monuments are strange things - they exist purely to give us something to remember.

In this case, the only difference is that it's so important for us to remember that its existence isn't enough to elevate it as high as is warranted, so we (as a country) have determined it requires the addition of a symbolic "guard" to emphasize its importance even more.
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This is one military tradition that I've never really understood. I have all the respect in the world for our military force. But why make these poor guys stand motionless out there in bad weather? What point does that make? We all know these guys are dedicated and committed, and a helluva lot tougher than me. But this just seems completely unnecessary. What if a hurricane hits them out there? Should we really risk their lives just to make a point about how tough and committed they are?

Sorry, no disrespect to soldiers. I just can't understand how this is justified these days.
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Can I get some background info here? Who's the Unknown Soldier?
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Can I get some background info here? Who's the Unknown Soldier?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomb_of_the_unknowns
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