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Matt Barkley 53 35.10%
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Old 11-04-2012, 07:37 PM  
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:27 PM   #76
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Geno Smith- Has all the tools, plays for a shit coach and team not designed to go up against Big XII-level competition, can be compared to Ben Roethlisberger for Miami, OH in that regard. Has the most upside.

Tyler Wilson- In a similar position as Geno Smith in that his team is a ****ing mess. Has performed worse and made the most bone-headed mistakes of the three but against the toughest competition by far. I personally question his pocket presence; it's not enough just to stand there and get hit. Could use more mobility in the pocket. Has a reputation as a meathead, but those stories might be overblown. Will have to see how he does at the combine and in interviews

Matt Barkley- Has the best WRs, line, and surrounding team. Most likely to do okay in the pros of the three QBs, but the least likely of the three to really excel and be a top 5 QB in the league. Concerns about armstrength are overblown; he really has the ability to make any throw on the field, but the only concern is his windup on long balls. Both Geno and Wilson have that effortless ability to "flick" a long throw, and Barkley needs to take a bit more time. Has a million-dollar smile.
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:27 PM   #77
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Brees is immobile?
He's not a 600 yard rusher
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He's not a 600 yard rusher
So that makes him immobile?
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No bias here. lmao
I found it to be pretty fair. We have yet to see if Geno's game against TCU is a preview of things to come. If it is, then he absolutely deserves to be blasted for it, and his draft stock needs to come down below Wilson and Barkley.

Until then, however, it's one measly game. You don't see me entering into your Wilson thread and billay's Barkley thread going "LOLOL INT WHUPS SHIT QB!"
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:29 PM   #80
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Judging by the comments about Smith for the past several weeks, I think that many here are expecting Smith to be part Randall Cunningham and half Dan Marino.

He's not. Not even close.

He has time to prove otherwise but he looks like a project to me. Quite honestly, I hope the Chiefs pass on him. The stiffer the defense, the worse he plays.
I disagree.

I think his poor games are the results if the limitations of the offensive design, and the disparity of talent between college teams is far, far greater than the disparity of talent between NFL teams, thus, the QB is not nearly the difference maker on the colege level that he is on the NFL level.
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Because to me, the quickness Brees shows in getting out on stretch plays and designed rollouts demonstrate mobility. Maybe I'm wrong and have no idea what mobility means.
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:31 PM   #82
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He's not a 600 yard rusher
But he can move around the pocket, extend plays. This, to me, is mobile.

600 yard rushing QBs are running QBs.
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Because to me, the quickness Brees shows in getting out on stretch plays and designed rollouts demonstrate mobility. Maybe I'm wrong and have no idea what mobility means.
He's not as athletic and mobile as Aaron Rodgers, but he's not a stiff.
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But he can move around the pocket, extend plays. This, to me, is mobile.

600 yard rushing QBs are running QBs.
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He's not as athletic and mobile as Aaron Rodgers, but he's not a stiff.
Exactly. Dane insinuated that if he isn't rushing for 600 yards, he is immobile. Which is silly.
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Because to me, the quickness Brees shows in getting out on stretch plays and designed rollouts demonstrate mobility. Maybe I'm wrong and have no idea what mobility means.
I think Rodgers, Brees, etc. have "average" mobility.

Young, Vick, RGIII, Cunningham and Newton have above average mobility.

Being able to hang in the pocket and sidestep the pass rush doesn't make a QB "mobile" or "athletic".
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I think Rodgers, Brees, etc. have "average" mobility.
Ok, then why did you say this?

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Drew Brees, Eli and Peyton are "immobile" and have won the last several Super Bowls..
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Ok, then why did you say this?
Because they're "immobile" compared to guys like Newton, etc.

Running a bootleg doesn't make a QB "mobile".

These guys are modern day pocket passers.
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Who compared them to Newton?

Nobody said they weren't pocket passers either. You called Brees immobile, and then stated that mobile QBs are the ones that rush for 600yds a season. That simply isn't the case.
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Ok, then why did you say this?
It's pretty clear that his definition of mobile is far narrower than ours.

When I think of immobile, I think of guys like Drew Bledsoe, Kurt Warner and Kyle Orton.

Those guys have anchors for feet, and Warner is probably the last of his kind that will win a SB.
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