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Old 12-04-2012, 01:24 PM   #1
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Sorry, but if they find a black man in a Bentley sleeping they are running the plates and asking for ID. At least in Leawood, PV, OP, Mission, Fairway. Heck around here, if you are black and driving anything nice and newer than 2005 you are getting pulled over and checked out.

Maybe it's different in Missouri. I think they ran the plates saw WHO it was and let him skate.
It's also ENTIRELY possible that he wasn't legally drunk so there was ZILCH they could legally do.

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Old 12-04-2012, 01:28 PM   #2
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It's also ENTIRELY possible that he wasn't legally drunk so there was ZILCH they could legally do.


Wouldn't they have run a breatholizer test to determine that? Or once they found out who he was choose not to if he promised to go home and be a good boy?

Didn't the friends say he could sleep on their couch because he was drunk? Did he go get drunk after being discovered by police and before he went to the GF2 house?
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:37 PM   #3
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Wouldn't they have run a breatholizer test to determine that? Or once they found out who he was choose not to if he promised to go home and be a good boy?
Don't know, haven't read the police report. And neither have you.

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Didn't the friends say he could sleep on their couch because he was drunk? Did he go get drunk after being discovered by police and before he went to the GF2 house?
First of all, his friends could have said he was coked out of his mind, doesn't mean he was. It's also possible that his friends think "drinking" equals drunk, when in the eyes of the law, they are most certainly not the same.
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:39 PM   #4
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Don't know, haven't read the police report. And neither have you.



First of all, his friends could have said he was coked out of his mind, doesn't mean he was. It's also possible that his friends think "drinking" equals drunk, when in the eyes of the law, they are most certainly not the same.
first of all it sucks to say this but a sensible person would assume he was drunk.

sober people dont go to sleep in their bently in THAT neighborhood
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:45 PM   #5
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first of all it sucks to say this but a sensible person would assume he was drunk.

sober people dont go to sleep in their bently in THAT neighborhood
While I agree, we weren't there. We don't have all the facts.

But yes, let's blame the police. Let's blame Kasi Perkins.

Let's blame anybody but Belcher.
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:48 PM   #6
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While I agree, we weren't there. We don't have all the facts.

But yes, let's blame the police. Let's blame Kasi Perkins.

Let's blame anybody but Belcher.
Belcher is definitely the killer and the fault of the deaths of two people. That does not mean there weren't decisions made in the hours preceding that could have changed the ending.
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:49 PM   #7
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Belcher is definitely the killer and the fault of the deaths of two people. That does not mean there weren't decisions made in the hours preceding that could have changed the ending.
Changed the ending?

Or changed the length of the film?
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Old 12-04-2012, 04:36 PM   #8
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It's also ENTIRELY possible that he wasn't legally drunk so there was ZILCH they could legally do.

Possessing the keys to the car you are in while intoxicated is sufficient for a DUI.
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Old 12-04-2012, 04:47 PM   #9
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Possessing the keys to the car you are in while intoxicated is sufficient for a DUI.
Yep, even if you are asleep in the backseat or passenger seat, if you posses keys DUI.
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Old 12-04-2012, 04:59 PM   #10
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Possessing the keys to the car you are in while intoxicated is sufficient for a DUI.
In California, if you're sitting in your car, parked in your own driveway while intoxicated, a DUI can be issued.
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Old 12-04-2012, 05:04 PM   #11
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In California, if you're sitting in your car, parked in your own driveway while intoxicated, a DUI can be issued.
My roommate got a DUI in Cali for this very reason. We were at a house party and she went outside to sit in the car and sleep, since it was loud in the house. She passed out in the drivers seat, car off. Cops showed up for a noise complaint, noticed her sleeping in the car and issued her a DUI. Personally, I think that's bullshit, but it is what it is.
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Old 12-04-2012, 05:20 PM   #12
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In California, if you're sitting in your car, parked in your own driveway while intoxicated, a DUI can be issued.
Again, "while intoxicated".

The police report, from what has been read on the radio, said he did not appear to be intoxicated.
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Old 12-04-2012, 05:41 PM   #13
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Again, "while intoxicated".

The police report, from what has been read on the radio, said he did not appear to be intoxicated.
My comments didn't really have any relation to the case. They were just to further Baby Lee's comments.

That said, I know many people (myself included) that would not appear intoxicated with a blood alcohol level of .08 percent. Plus, this this sub-discussion is somewhat irrelevant to the case overall because he was not cited for intoxication.
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Old 12-04-2012, 06:13 PM   #14
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My comments didn't really have any relation to the case. They were just to further Baby Lee's comments.

That said, I know many people (myself included) that would not appear intoxicated with a blood alcohol level of .08 percent. Plus, this this sub-discussion is somewhat irrelevant to the case overall because he was not cited for intoxication.
Precisely my point.

As soon as the info came out about the traffic "stop" Duhnise and a couple others instantly started with the "the police could have saved two lives but chose to let him go because he's a football player" bullshit.

We have no idea if they had any LEGAL reason to detain him. He was not cited for DUI or public intox.

It's a shame that two people died Saturday morning. Continuing to sacrifice liberty to prevent such tragedies however, is NOT an option.
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Old 12-04-2012, 05:19 PM   #15
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Possessing the keys to the car you are in while intoxicated is sufficient for a DUI.
What if he wasn't legally intoxicated?

That's the key point that nobody seems to want to acknowledge.
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