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Old 01-17-2013, 08:27 PM  
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Reid should have waited for a DC
I know Andy wanted to get a staff in place, and I know he did ask for permission to interview Ray Horton, but was rebuffed, but he should have waited a week on the DC.

Horton is going to come available and it's a shame it won't be here.
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:43 PM   #61
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Look at it this way: Ray Horton probably would have been gone in the next year or two. Sutton is an experienced guy who likely won't get a HC gig.
We need consistency and hopefully he brings good results for a long time.
That's what I think ultimately happened. I think Reid maybe wanted to speak to Horton, but at the end of the day he was probably looking for a veteran presence and a guy who wasn't just angling for a head coaching job next year. He probably wanted some stability there, and it looks like all of our defensive coaches are on the older side. Probably why Kiffin was at the top of his wish list...
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:48 PM   #62
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Im not too bent out of shape. This guy wants to be a HC and I believe sutton can be here for a few years. Sutton has experience from multiple coaches and has experience with this 34 scheme. I like hearing aggressiveness. Thats what we need. Attack the ****ing QB and make him uncomfortable.
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:49 PM   #63
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Shit happens, cant wait forever.. Install 1 gap 34 and lets see what happens.
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Old 01-18-2013, 08:53 AM   #64
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Shit happens, cant wait forever.. Install 1 gap 34 and lets see what happens.
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:11 AM   #65
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The thing is, he probably could've waited if he wanted. I could be wrong but I don't think anyone else would've hired Sutton as DC. Of course Horton might have only been here a year before leaving anyway. So it might not really matter.
This.

Thats just it, he's bucking for head coach and wouldnt have been here very long anyway... why waste time with a guy who's not satisfied with his position.

Just because Sutton isnt some dream team name doesnt mean he isnt going to be effective, this isnt worth complaining about at all imo.
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:08 AM   #66
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Shit happens, cant wait forever.. Install 1 gap 34 and lets see what happens.
Too bad people don't have this mentality on the QB position.

Draft Geno, see what happens.
If fail, do it again.
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:21 AM   #67
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That's what I think ultimately happened. I think Reid maybe wanted to speak to Horton, but at the end of the day he was probably looking for a veteran presence and a guy who wasn't just angling for a head coaching job next year. He probably wanted some stability there, and it looks like all of our defensive coaches are on the older side. Probably why Kiffin was at the top of his wish list...
That's one hell of a spin job. So we should rather want the guy who nobody will want to hire in 2 years opposed the the guy who will be a head coach in 2 year? **** that.
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:50 AM   #68
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:00 AM   #69
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Sutton wont be here long

if one thing guys bad he will be the first guy thrown under the bus/replaced.
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:39 AM   #70
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Sutton wont be here long

if one thing guys bad he will be the first guy thrown under the bus/replaced.
Ray Horton will be a HC next year.
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:40 AM   #71
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Sutton wont be here long

if one thing guys bad he will be the first guy thrown under the bus/replaced.
Replace him now with Horton.
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I'm liking what the Browns are doing.
I do too except all they did was hire an inexperienced Norv pupil and get two pretty good coordinators.

I don't imagine Chud is going to get that much out of the team. It's gonna take a genius to fix the Browns one of these days, and i don't think Chud is that answer.
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Ray Horton will be a HC next year.
How do you figure?

There were like 9 openings this year, including HIS team, and he didn't get much of a sniff at all.
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I honestly don't care.

I think we've hit a 450 foot homerun so far this offseason.

Asking for a 500 footer seems unreasonable.
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