Luke Joeckel may pique Chiefs’ interest at No. 1 overall

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Frankie

David Carr and Tim Coach were "best QB prospect available" in their drafts. It doesn't mean shit.

Desperate drafting is not astute drafting. If after the combine it is clear that Geno is only the 12th best draft prospect, we better seriously see if we could trade down at least to 7 to get him and get some extra benefits. And we better have done our homework on the 2nd and 3rd best QB prospects, just in case some desperate fool takes Geno at 6.

Ok. I see now.

You don't know really know how the draft works.

Gotcha. I'll leave you alone now.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Ok. I see now.

You don't know really know how the draft works.

Gotcha. I'll leave you alone now.

Are you sure you know? you wanting to take Gino #1 damn the rankings or possible reach?

[pkane]

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

Are you sure you know? you wanting to take Gino #1 damn the rankings or possible reach?

If he is the top rated QB and rated 12th overall then, yes screw the damn rankings. I don't get how it is a reach if the top QB is rated in the top 15 overall(by frankie mind you) and you take him at #1.

Would you call Big Ben a reach at #2 instead of drafting him at #11. I bet the Raiders wish they had taken a QB at #2 in that draft instead of a LT.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by pkane

I don't get how it is a reach if the top QB is rated in the top 15 overall(by frankie mind you) and you take him at #1.

I don't understand the point of that emphasis. But if a QB is only rated the 15th best player, the fact that he is of a position of need is not enough of a reason to use a rare top pick of the draft on him. Especially if the QB ranked 32, 33, 34, overall is not that far behind as a QB.

Originally Posted by O.city

How many times do we have to pass on a QB, draft some other slap dick, then watch that QB go on to be succesful before the fans say "you know what, why don't we ever take a chance"?

I think we are all unified that we want to see this draft bring us a young QB. We are just haggling over not squandering a rare chance a team gets at picking first in the draft.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

Are you sure you know? you wanting to take Gino #1 damn the rankings or possible reach?

The thought there there is such a thing as a reach for a quarterback is silly.

Over the last 5-6 years, the bust rate of quarterbacks has been one of the lowest of any position group.

Would you rather have a guy like Eugene Monroe or Glenn Dorsey...or Joe Flacco?

**** the thought process that any other position can help your team more than a quarterback.

[BIG K]

Originally Posted by BossChief

The thought there there is such a thing as a reach for a quarterback is silly.

Over the last 5-6 years, the bust rate of quarterbacks has been one of the lowest of any position group.

Would you rather have a guy like Eugene Monroe or Glenn Dorsey...or Joe Flacco?

**** the thought process that any other position can help your team more than a quarterback.

Exactly!

[BIG K]

Originally Posted by Frankie

But if think we are all unified that we want to see this draft bring us a young QB. We are just haggling over not squandering a rare chance a team gets at picking first in the draft.

This is why I have posted rarely in 11 years. (I say eleven years because somehow my first year of posts was lost) The biggest position of need of the Chiefs in the last 40 years has been QB, albeit Montanna and Greene. Instead, we have marveled at picks as N. Smith, D. Thomas, Carter, Tait, Albert, Berry,, and Bowe...

At what point does the fan base and ownership realize that drafting a QB will make the most sense to move this franchise forward? Yeah, I get it, drafting the most awesome LT, LB, RB is awesome.

Until this franchise drafts and develops a QB, we will have awesome players going to the Probowl, while the rest of their team sits at home watching the games......

[pkane]

Originally Posted by Frankie

I don't understand the point of that emphasis. But if a QB is only rated the 15th best player, the fact that he is of a position of need is not enough of a reason to use a rare top pick of the draft on him. Especially if the QB ranked 32, 33, 34, overall is not that far behind as a QB.



I think we are all unified that we want to see this draft bring us a young QB. We are just haggling over not squandering a rare chance a team gets at picking first in the draft.

It wasn't a slight but I see how you think that, my bad. I was using your grade as the top QB in the draft being rated as 12th overall and how you should wait to take him. My thought is you don't pass on the QB because he is rated 12th, it would be dumb to. If Oakland could do it all over again they would take Big Ben instead of Gallery 10 times out of 10.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Ok. I see now.

You don't know really know how the draft works.

Gotcha. I'll leave you alone now.

And you do? This is sad and funny rolled together. Mostly sad though.