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Old 01-22-2013, 12:33 PM  
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Albert just called 610. Wants to stay in KC
Agent is talking to Dorsey. Does not want to play guard. Health is good. For what its worth.
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Old 01-25-2013, 08:47 PM   #691
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Look at what Reid was able to do with guys like Kolb and Vick.

Geno, Wilson and Barkley all are better than Kolb and Vick.
Minus the Barkley name I agree. Kolb and Vick both have strong arms, Barkley does not.
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Old 01-25-2013, 08:50 PM   #692
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Old 01-25-2013, 08:57 PM   #693
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Drafting a game manager at QB will also have that effect. Don't you agree? Again are you sure we have more than potential game managers in this draft? If you convince me Geno Smith (or any other QB in this year's draft) is more than a potential game manager I'll be not only on his bandwagon but I'll grab the reigns.
Oh jesus.

Geno Smith a Game Manager style QB.

Geno Smith will Tom Brady/Peyton Manning you with extremely accurate short passes all day until the defense starts to bite, and then he launches it for a 50 yard TD bomb. This happens over and over and over and over at WV.

Game Managers rely on their running game and defense. You are talking 1990 football.
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Old 01-25-2013, 08:59 PM   #694
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:07 PM   #695
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I'd take Barkley over Kolb or Vick IN A HEARTBEAT.
That's a tough comparison. The reason I wouldn't take Barkley over those guys is because you essentially would be saying Barkley is your QB of the future. With Kolb or Vick those guys are stop-gap guys.
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:20 PM   #696
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:34 PM   #697
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Why would busting on a QB be worse than busting on a OL or LB with the first pick? The money isn't going to be any different.
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Learning curve.

You are overthinking this. QBs are given more time to develop than any other position and for good reason. It's the hardest position to transition from college to pro. While you are waiting to find out for 2, 3, 4, or 5 years for your mediocre QB to develop, you are missing out on real ones. By the time you do try again, the players you drafted after him are ready to hit free agency.

You can say we should draft a QB year after year until we get one but, that's not going to happen. it's not realistic to do that over and over in the first round. If you do, your team will get old or leave via free agency and you won't have anything but a QB. You aren't going to be the Colts if you do that. It's not about money. It's about the loss of talent.

You guys can dream all night and day but, reality is very different. I think most Chiefs fans get it. For some reason, there are a lot of people here who don't. Maybe it's the stupid first round QB in Superbowls argument?

If you are a Chiefs fan, you shouldn't even be talking about a superbowl let alone a playoff win. You are like little kids asking for a b-day pony. It ain't going to happen guys. You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit.
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:43 PM   #698
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Learning curve.

You are overthinking this. QBs are given more time to develop than any other position and for good reason. It's the hardest position to transition from college to pro. While you are waiting to find out for 2, 3, 4, or 5 years for your mediocre QB to develop, you are missing out on real ones. By the time you do try again, the players you drafted after him are ready to hit free agency.

You can say we should draft a QB year after year until we get one but, that's not going to happen. it's not realistic to do that over and over in the first round. If you do, your team will get old or leave via free agency and you won't have anything but a QB. You aren't going to be the Colts if you do that. It's not about money. It's about the loss of talent.

You guys can dream all night and day but, reality is very different. I think most Chiefs fans get it. For some reason, there are a lot of people here who don't. Maybe it's the stupid first round QB in Superbowls argument?

If you are a Chiefs fan, you shouldn't even be talking about a superbowl let alone a playoff win. You are like little kids asking for a b-day pony. It ain't going to happen guys. You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit.
You're absolutely unequivocally wrong.

A #1 overall pick, whether QB, OT, or anything else, is going to be given ample time to succeed, many times too much time.

The standard you apply to the QB is simultaneously laughable and absurd.
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:45 PM   #699
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Learning curve.

You are overthinking this. QBs are given more time to develop than any other position and for good reason. It's the hardest position to transition from college to pro. While you are waiting to find out for 2, 3, 4, or 5 years for your mediocre QB to develop, you are missing out on real ones. By the time you do try again, the players you drafted after him are ready to hit free agency.

You can say we should draft a QB year after year until we get one but, that's not going to happen. it's not realistic to do that over and over in the first round. If you do, your team will get old or leave via free agency and you won't have anything but a QB. You aren't going to be the Colts if you do that. It's not about money. It's about the loss of talent.

You guys can dream all night and day but, reality is very different. I think most Chiefs fans get it. For some reason, there are a lot of people here who don't. Maybe it's the stupid first round QB in Superbowls argument?

If you are a Chiefs fan, you shouldn't even be talking about a superbowl let alone a playoff win. You are like little kids asking for a b-day pony. It ain't going to happen guys. You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit.
Except this roster is chicken salad and not chicken shit.
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Except this roster is chicken salad and not chicken shit.
That's why we are picking first instead of 30th.

Also, Think about how long we stuck with Brodie Croyle? How much has Stanzi played? What about Palko? He wasn't even drafted and made it a couple of years.
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Most Chiefs fans get it.

It's the people who want a QB that don't.

Just when I think you can't say anything more stupid...

"Most" Chiefs fans evidently don't watch football, it's all about the tailgate and BBQ.

REAL teams have REAL fans that understand the value of the QB. That's why they're watching playoff games while we're debating draft picks in October.
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That's why we are picking first instead of 30th.

Also, Think about how long we stuck with Brodie Croyle? How much has Stanzi played?

well Knowmo, we have 6 ****ing pro bowlers, 1 that just went in 2010 and another who has been screwed.

The QB's and HC ****ed the team. It happens.
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That's why we are picking first instead of 30th.

Also, Think about how long we stuck with Brodie Croyle? How much has Stanzi played? What about Palko? He wasn't even drafted and made it a couple of years.
Brodie Croyle started ONE SEASON.

You're a moron.
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Most Chiefs fans get it.

It's the people who want a QB that don't.

Just when I think you can't say anything more stupid...

"Most" Chiefs fans evidently don't watch football, it's all about the tailgate and BBQ.

REAL teams have REAL fans that understand the value of the QB. That's why they're watching playoff games while we're debating draft picks in October.
Agreed, we have one the dumbest fan bases in football.
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well Knowmo, we have 6 ****ing pro bowlers, 1 that just went in 2010 and another who has been screwed.

The QB's and HC ****ed the team. It happens.


Lets waste another year or 3 of those Pro bowlers careers by taking a left ****ing tackle,
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