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Old 02-22-2013, 08:37 AM  
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Poilian says no QB worthy of #1. Chiefs can find one later




Former Colts GM Polian says Chiefs can find a QB in the draft

— In Bill Polian’s long career as an NFL general manager, his team had the number-one pick in the draft just once. That was in 1998, when he was with Indianapolis, and the Colts that year selected a quarterback, Peyton Manning.


That worked out well for Polian and the Colts. But Polian said he doesn’t think the Chiefs should draft a quarterback with this year’s first pick, even though they would like an upgrade over Matt Cassel. Like many assessing this year’s draft, Polian said there’s not a quarterback worthy of being the number-one selection.

“Just because there’s not a quarterback that everybody now doesn’t think is worth the number-one pick doesn’t mean you can’t get a quarterback,” Polian said. “Nobody thought Russell Wilson was worth a third-round pick except a couple of us. He turned out to be a pretty good quarterback.

“You always go for the best player. It’s foolish to go for need and (Chiefs coach Andy Reid) won’t do that.”

While Reid coached in Philadelphia, the Eagles at least a couple of times found quarterbacks after the first round who eventually became starters, including Kevin Kolb and Nick Foles.

“Nobody develops quarterbacks better than Andy Reid,” Polian said. “So rest assured, you’ve got the right guy. Whatever decision he makes will be the right one. He’ll find a quarterback. It doesn’t need to be the first guy in the draft.”
Other than to stay away from quarterbacks, Polian had no advice for the Chiefs with the first pick.

“Ask Andy,” he said. “They know their personnel far better than I do and they know what they need.”



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Old 02-22-2013, 09:43 AM   #46
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That's not true at all. He was the future of the Eagles in 2010. He started the first game and got hurt. Vick played weeks 2-4 and then they brought Kolb back in. He started until week 9, when he w againas then injured. Week 10 was the week Vick absolutely destroyed the Redskins, and then Vick never let go of the job.

Spare me the "he was never a franchise QB" because that was exactly what Philly had planned for him. He just got unlucky with injuries and the next guy up made the most of his opportunity. Just like Alex Smith/Kaepernick.
Vick never let go of the job because Kolb couldn't take it for his own.

It isn't AT ALL like Alex Smith/Kaepernick. Kolb has literally NOTHING to offer next to Colin Kaepernick.

Dumb, dumb, dumb.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:44 AM   #47
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They had just signed Flynn, which made them able to take a risk and see what happened.


IMO we don't exactly have that option right now
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:44 AM   #48
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So you think there will be 5/6 QBs taken in rd 1 ?

Wilson is the 6th rated QB.
Only by Mayock. If you really think that Wilson is worse than Landry Jones, I don't know what to tell you.

Wilson being available in R2 is a fantasy at best.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:45 AM   #49
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I want a great QB in KC as bad as anyone.

That said, if the talent evaluations for this team show that these guys aren't top 10 talent, I'm OK taking another position with the #1. Honestly, in that case, if there isn't a #1QB, I hope they can trade down and pick up an extra 2nd or 1 next year.

No, I'm not True fan...I'm realistic.
Trading down isn't realistic.

If we, the Chiefs, who have a gaping ****ing hole at QB, don't want to draft a QB at #1, NOBODY is going to trade with us.

Our pick is not tradeable. For real.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:45 AM   #50
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You're not paying attention you ****ing moron.

HOW MANY OTHER TEAMS HAD THE "PLAN" OF PICKING HIM?

It doesn't matter if you like a guy and have him circled on your board. Even Scott ****ing ***** does that. No team knows when a player "should" get drafted. If Schneider legitimately thought that Wilson was HIS QB and the guy that he HAD to get, he would have drafted him a lot earlier, because NOBODY ****ING KNOWS WHAT THE HELL IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE DRAFT.

I just ****ing SAID in my last post that Schneider liked Russell Wilson a lot. It was the other guys in the room who didn't want to take him with that pick. That's far from a consensus team plan to wait things out and take Wilson "where he belongs"

You can't be this dumb.
They do what smart teams do: get value and the QB.

It was no secret that Russell Wilson was getting a 3rd round grade due to his height. Hell some people thought Foles would be taken before him because of that issue.

Teams will know what round each player, especially a QB, will be slotted in on draft day.
Pretty clear that Schneider zoned in on the kid and knew his height would keep him out of the first 2 rounds.
Teams will know EVERYTHING about a QB if they need one. E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:45 AM   #51
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Ummmm. I don't think this is true. I've seen him as high as 1, as low as 4. And yes, I do think 4 QBs get drafted in the 1st round.


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Old 02-22-2013, 09:46 AM   #52
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Just posted in another thread. Albert's back worse than initially thought after camp leaks said he passed his physical. As much as it would suck it may be the LT if this is true.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:46 AM   #53
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Two more months of this bullshit.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:48 AM   #54
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Hog Farmer's gotta be on a troll kick ever since 2013 draft talk started. He's not normally this dumb.
You're dead wrong ! I'm normally this dumb!
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Two more months of this bullshit.
Ignore it.

He's using the same information we've known and discussed for days.

Reid said Albert HAD a significant injury. Not HAS a significant injury.

Dude passed his physical. People are just stirring shit up.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:51 AM   #56
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So explain to me how this works.

The Chiefs identify the best QB, and then expect he'll be there when they're picking in the 2nd (or even 3rd?) round? They're just going to sit there and laugh at the other teams picking other QBs ahead of them?

Or is it they're willing to settle for a not-the-best QB simply because the best one isn't worth No. 1 overall?
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Trading down isn't realistic.

If we, the Chiefs, who have a gaping ****ing hole at QB, don't want to draft a QB at #1, NOBODY is going to trade with us.

Our pick is not tradeable. For real.
In that scenerio, if there are 10 players better than the best QB...take the best player.


I have no doubt when this shakes out, there will be at least 2 new Quarterbacks on this team, better than anything we saw on the field last year.
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Just posted in another thread. Albert's back worse than initially thought after camp leaks said he passed his physical. As much as it would suck it may be the LT if this is true.
What you posted in the other thread is just more speculative bullshit.

Reid said Albert had a serious back INJURY. Singular.

There's absolutely no evidence that he has chronic, ongoing ISSUES with his back.
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In that scenerio, if there are 10 players better than the best QB...take the best player.
There aren't 10 players better than the best QB, so again we're back to being "realistic".
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