Dee Milliner

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

It's also WRONG.

Every guy the media has hyped has fallen by the wayside. Joeckel was soft, Warmack was disappointing, Manti was laughable, Jones and Star couldn't even work out.

On the flipside, they said the corners in this class were weak and they're not. They said the QBs were weak and 2 or 3 of them had GREAT combines.

The perception of this draft is flat out stupid. The media talking heads are stupid.

And if Reid and Dorsey don't draft a QB, they're stupid too.

I agree completely. The percpetion of this draft has been HEAVILY influenced by the media and it changes with the wind.

Hyping Warmack to be the first overall pick was really pushing the envelope. Everyone knew a G, albeit a good G, would not go #1. Manti was clearly overhyped as well. He may be a solid LB but theres no hiding from his mediocre combine performance; the fact that he disappeared in the biggest game of his life; and the whole gf fiasco.

So that clearly leaves the best QB (Geno); the best CB (Millner); and the best pass rusher (?) as the potential #1 pick. If we stay at #1, then unless we take a WR it will be one of those three.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by FRCDFED

I agree completely. The percpetion of this draft has been HEAVILY influenced by the media and it changes with the wind.

Hyping Warmack to be the first overall pick was really pushing the envelope. Everyone knew a G, albeit a good G, would not go #1. Manti was clearly overhyped as well. He may be a solid LB but theres no hiding from his mediocre combine performance; the fact that he disappeared in the biggest game of his life; and the whole gf fiasco.

So that clearly leaves the best QB (Geno); the best CB (Millner); and the best pass rusher (?) as the potential #1 pick. If we stay at #1, then unless we take a WR it will be one of those three.

The thing is, nobody has EVER selected a CB #1 overall.

Are people actually suggesting we should do something that's never happened ever in NFL history just because we're scared of drafting a QB?

That's almost as dumb as taking a guard overall.

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

The thing is, nobody has EVER selected a CB #1 overall.

Are people actually suggesting we should do something that's never happened ever in NFL history just because we're scared of drafting a QB?

That's almost as dumb as taking a guard overall.

Nobody has said we are scared to take a QB.

1. The media has said no QB is worth the #1 pick.

2. Dorsey said he would take the BPA. I don't recall Dorsey ever saying that it wouldn't be a QB.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by FRCDFED

Nobody has said we are scared to take a QB.

1. The media has said no QB is worth the #1 pick.

2. Dorsey said he would take the BPA. I don't recall Dorsey ever saying that it wouldn't be a QB.

The media said no QB is worth the #1 pick. That same media has also said:

1) Manti Teo IS worth the #1 pick
2) We should pick a guard #1 overall.

Here's the deal - HISTORY says there's no CB worth the #1 pick.

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Here's the deal - HISTORY says there's no CB worth the #1 pick.

True. However, I'm sure that has been the case with many positions. When did OT become the value #1 pick? After QB's started getting crushed.

Theres an argument to be made with every position in relation to the #1 pick. Irregardless, it seems that the consensus on CP is that there are only three positions that warrant the #1 pick.

1. QB
2. Pass Rusher
3. CB

In that order. So, it is possible that Dorsey/Reid agree and also possible it could happen.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by FRCDFED

True. However, I'm sure that has been the case with many positions. When did OT become the value #1 pick? After QB's started getting crushed.

The funny thing is:

QBs are actually SAFER than OTs when it comes to building a winning team. More tackles bust than people want to accept. And even the ones that don't can't will a team to a winning record without a QB.

MagicHef did some excellent analysis.

[FRCDFED]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

The funny thing is:

QBs are actually SAFER than OTs when it comes to building a winning team. More tackles bust than people want to accept. And even the ones that don't can't will a team to a winning record without a QB.

MagicHef did some excellent analysis.

I used to cringe every time Peterson would draft a damn lineman in the first round! I want playmakers!

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

The thing is, nobody has EVER selected a CB #1 overall.

Are people actually suggesting we should do something that's never happened ever in NFL history just because we're scared of drafting a QB?

That's almost as dumb as taking a guard overall.

29-67 since 2007.

Could Geno possibly set us back any worse????