Now Who is the #1 Pick???

[Shox]

Originally Posted by Dayze

you want to pick up a 3-4 end that high?

Not really...but I think it is the most likely thing to happen.

We just jumped on the Alex Smith bankwagon. We better get a stud D built very, very quickly.

Star, Poe, Jackson
Houston, Johnson, ???, Tamba
Flowers, FA CB, Berry FA S

Has the making of a very, very good D.

[Dayze]

Originally Posted by Shox

Not really...but I think it is the most likely thing to happen.

We just jumped on the Alex Smith bankwagon. We better get a stud D built very, very quickly.

Star, Poe, Jackson
Houston, Johnson, ???, Tamba
Flowers, FA CB, Berry FA S

Has the making of a very, very good D.

but, defense no longer wins Championships.

it just prolongs the inevitable.

[Shox]

Originally Posted by Dayze

but, defense no longer wins Championships.

it just prolongs the inevitable.

I'm just calling it like I see it. If I were running the show we would not be trading a 2nd round pick for Alex Smith.

[Dayze]

Originally Posted by Shox

I'm just calling it like I see it. If I were running the show we would not be trading a 2nd round pick for Alex Smith.

oh, I know. no big deal i know it's your opinion etc.
I understand that etc.

I just think the top 3 is a place where you spend wisely for players than can effect the outcome of a game on a single play etc.

[Shox]

Originally Posted by Dayze

oh, I know. no big deal i know it's your opinion etc.
I understand that etc.

I just think the top 3 is a place where you spend wisely for players than can effect the outcome of a game on a single play etc.

I'm still hoping for Geno, but it is a dream IMO.

[Shox]

Originally Posted by Dayze

but, defense no longer wins Championships.

it just prolongs the inevitable.

I don't agree with this either.

San Fran and Baltimore have pretty damn good defenses.

[melbar]

Originally Posted by Dayze

but, defense no longer wins Championships.

it just prolongs the inevitable.

S.F. and Baltimore aren't exactly offensive juggernauts. They were built on Defense.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by melbar

S.F. and Baltimore aren't exactly offensive juggernauts. They were built on Defense.

Ravens - 34
49ers - 31

[Shox]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Ravens - 34
49ers - 31

Oh you are right. Those defenses are horrible.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Shox

Oh you are right. Those defenses are horrible.

Horrible? No.

The Ravens defense is pretty average and middle of the pack. It's old.

[melbar]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Ravens - 34
49ers - 31

I know the SB there was a lot of scoring, but c'mon....Those teams didnt exactly get there riding the arms of Smith, Kaepernick, and Flacco.

I'm not even saying I think it has to be D for us. Just saying the talk like Defense is no longer as important is just a little premature.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by melbar

I know the SB there was a lot of scoring, but c'mon....Those teams didnt exactly get there riding the arms of Smith, Kaepernick, and Flacco.

I'm not even saying I think it has to be D for us. Just saying the talk like Defense is no longer as important is just a little premature.

You haven't been paying attention. Flacco had 11 TDs and 0 INTS in the playoffs. Without that performance they don't overcome the 35 points by Denver and 31 by SF. Baltimore was 13th in points allowed and 17th in yards. Pretty average.

SF in the playoffs gave up 31, 24, and 31 points.

When push comes to shove, the offense wins out.

[Dayze]

Originally Posted by melbar

S.F. and Baltimore aren't exactly offensive juggernauts. They were built on Defense.

but they were balanced.
if a team spends it's time and resources trying build a kick as D and ignoring the offesne (ahem, Chiefs), then they're going to fail.

I hear what you're saying though. My standpoint ismore along the lines of folks that want to build all-world defenses and have a good running game etc..all that BS; it doesn't work anymore.

[melbar]

Originally Posted by Dayze

but they were balanced.
if a team spends it's time and resources trying build a kick as D and ignoring the offesne (ahem, Chiefs), then they're going to fail.

I hear what you're saying though. My standpoint ismore along the lines of folks that want to build all-world defenses and have a good running game etc..all that BS; it doesn't work anymore.

Ya absoulutely true. I just think they started with D and that was the heart and soul of those teams.