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Old 03-12-2013, 11:29 PM   #1
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I know absolutely nothing about Chase Daniel, other than he received the best possible coaching and mentorship over the past four years in New Orleans.
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Unknown at this level.


He definitely wasn't a choker at MU, but I never felt like he laid the smack down against a good team in an evenly-matched game. He played well against Kansas, but OU was able to frustrate our offense in all the games he played. He had otherworldly talent. Maclin, Rucker, Coffman, Danario, and Will Franklin were all NFL players.


He had a bad reputation around Columbia as a bit of a drunk and a douchebag. Almost like a homeless man's Roethlisberger.

He has the right combination of intangibles and underrated, but passable physical skills to give him a chance to be a very good backup QB.
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Old 03-12-2013, 11:32 PM   #2
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Very accurate on short and intermediate routes.
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Better player in pads than in gym shorts

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Short
Weak Arm. The farthest he's thrown a ball on a crow hop is about 64 yards
Unknown at this level.


He definitely wasn't a choker at MU, but I never felt like he laid the smack down against a good team in an evenly-matched game. He played well against Kansas, but OU was able to frustrate our offense in all the games he played. He had otherworldly talent. Maclin, Rucker, Coffman, Danario, and Will Franklin were all NFL players.


He had a bad reputation around Columbia as a bit of a drunk and a douchebag. Almost like a homeless man's Roethlisberger.

He has the right combination of intangibles and underrated, but passable physical skills to give him a chance to be a very good backup QB.
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Do you believe that there's any way that he's improved his mechanics enough under Lombardi and Payton to where it's possible that he improved his arm strength, or were his mechanics never in question?
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Old 03-12-2013, 11:35 PM   #3
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Do you believe that there's any way that he's improved his mechanics enough under Lombardi and Payton to where it's possible that he improved his arm strength, or were his mechanics never in question?
I dont think his mechanics were ever the problem. He just lacks the ability to drive the ball. He can float it, almost anyone can float a ball, he cant drive it at all. Much like Ryan Fitzpatrick.
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Old 03-12-2013, 11:38 PM   #4
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I dont think his mechanics were ever the problem. He just lacks the ability to drive the ball. He can float it, almost anyone can float a ball, he cant drive it at all. Much like Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Mechanics are issues for every Mizzou QB. Shut up.
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Mechanics are issues for every Mizzou QB. Shut up.
I dont see it. I have seen him the last two pre seasons. his mechanics look fine to me.
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Do you believe that there's any way that he's improved his mechanics enough under Lombardi and Payton to where it's possible that he improved his arm strength, or were his mechanics never in question?
His footwork would have needed a little work coming out, and he was terrible under center, as all MU QBs have been.

I haven't seen enough of him in NO to have an informed opinion about his arm strength.

It's possible, but even with improvement, at his best his arm would be somewhere between Green and Huard.
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His footwork would have needed a little work coming out, and he was terrible under center, as all MU QBs have been.

I haven't seen enough of him in NO to have an informed opinion about his arm strength.

It's possible, but even with improvement, at his best his arm would be somewhere between Green and Huard.
Hard to tell. Hes played his entire career in a dome.
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His footwork would have needed a little work coming out, and he was terrible under center, as all MU QBs have been.

I haven't seen enough of him in NO to have an informed opinion about his arm strength.

It's possible, but even with improvement, at his best his arm would be somewhere between Green and Huard.
Well, it sounds like that would be enough to win a few games in relief of the starting QB.

It's tough to complain about a backup QB that fits Reid's WCO for $3 million per. Matt Moore received $4 million per.
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Do you believe that there's any way that he's improved his mechanics enough under Lombardi and Payton to where it's possible that he improved his arm strength, or were his mechanics never in question?
Build.

He doesn't have the shoulders to power through it or the height to get on top of it and drive it.

It's just raw physical limitations. Getting his body leaner and developing more raw strength would've helped a little, but he just doesn't have the frame or body type to really spin it.
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Build.

He doesn't have the shoulders to power through it or the height to get on top of it and drive it.

It's just raw physical limitations. Getting his body leaner and developing more raw strength would've helped a little, but he just doesn't have the frame or body type to really spin it.
So he's like Jeff Garcia but less mobile?
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So he's like Jeff Garcia but less mobile?
I don't think he's any less mobile than Garcia but perhaps less wiley. Garcia was just clever as hell with his wheels and I don't see that in Daniel.

I also don't see him as being as accurate a passer as Garcia.

Unfortunately I agree with the later poster - he's closer to Thigpen than Garcia. He's better than Thiggy, don't get me wrong. But Garcia was actually pretty damn good in his own spastic, completely inexplicable way. I don't think it's fair to really compare anyone to him because Garcia's effectiveness made so little sense.

So until someone is like Garcia and good, I think all you can really do is call that person Thigpen.
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