Trade Official: QB Alex Smith to #Chiefs confirmed

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Reid Ferrin ‏@KCChiefs_Reid

Trade Official: QB Alex Smith to #Chiefs confirmed. Stay tuned to http://KCchiefs.com for more info #chiefskingdom


Adam Teicher ‏@adamteicher

The Alex Smith to #Chiefs trade is now official. 49ers get 2nd round pick plus conditional 2014 pick. Chiefs get starting QB



The San Francisco 49ers have agreed to a trade with the Kansas City Chiefs. The 49ers will acquire an undisclosed 2013 draft choice, and a conditional pick in the 2014 NFL Draft, in return for sending QB Alex Smith to the Chiefs. Smith must pass a physical in Kansas City for the trade to be executed.

“We would like to thank Alex for his contributions to the 49ers organization over the past eight years,” said 49ers General Manager Trent Baalke. “He is a true professional who represented the 49ers with class on and off the field.”

Originally the first overall draft pick in the 2005 NFL Draft by San Francisco, Smith spent eight seasons in the red and gold. During his tenure with the 49ers, he started 75 of the 80 games in which he played, completing 1,290 of 2,177 pass attempts (59.3%) for 14,280 yards and 81 TDs.

In 2012, Smith was 6-2-1 as a starter, completing 153 of 218 pass attempts (70.2%) for 1,737 yards with 13 TDs and 5 INTs, and a QB rating of 104.1. In 2011, Smith led the 49ers to their first NFC West title and postseason berth since 2002. He threw for a career-high 3,144 yards on 273 of 445 pass attempts with 17 TDs, 5 INTs and a 90.7 QB rating.

Born in Seattle, WA, Smith attended Helix High School in LaMesa, CA. At the University of Utah, Smith boasted a 21-1 record as a starter and became the first player in school history to be named a finalist for the Heisman Trophy.



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[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The only problem is that with this draft, you're asking a fan base that's suffered through years of shit (and an outright rebellion in 2012) to suffer through more years because they want to "try" to develop a guy to lead them to the Super Bowl someday.

I'm sorry, but that's a lot to ask of the average fan. It's why Royals Stadium is continually empty and it's a bad strategy for the Chiefs in 2013.

Then I am right that this franchise and fanbase has been neutered or "Bob Barkered" or castrated from the Todd Blackledge draft pick.

This franchise fanbase needs to grow another set of balls and pick a QB to develop so that this team can start to build for Champiship runs.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The only problem is that with this draft, you're asking a fan base that's suffered through years of shit (and an outright rebellion in 2012) to suffer through more years because they want to "try" to develop a guy to lead them to the Super Bowl someday.

I'm sorry, but that's a lot to ask of the average fan. It's why Royals Stadium is continually empty and it's a bad strategy for the Chiefs in 2013.

It's a bad strategy for the Royals, sure. But Clark will earn beaucoup money with the Chiefs whether or not there are blackouts or not.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Super Bowl or Bust was the 2005 strategy.

I thought that was 2001, which is why they passed on Brees in favor of Green.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If you have a young QB and you hit, you gradually improve.

If if you don't hit immediately, you're asking an already weary fan base that's tired of losing to be more patient.

It appears that Clark Hunt pulled that option from the table and I can't say that I disagree with him.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The QB alone will make any team competitive if he's worth his salt.

I completely understand that but this isn't 2008 or 2009. Chiefs fans back then were just a few years removed from the Trent Green era. It's 2013 and most fans haven't had any hope of a playoff win in a decade.

While I don't disagree with you philosophically, I disagree with the Chiefs best course of action, considering the utter failure of this team to win and win consistently for the better part of 17 years.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Baseball prospects almost always take 3+ years from the day they are drafted to even make a ML debut. From there, it takes several years to reach an All-Star level for even incredibly talented players.

NFL teams can completely turn around a franchise in just three, with immediate turnarounds noticeable in the first year.

NFL teams can completely turn around in one year, if there's a QB available that has the talent to change that franchise.

It's quite clear that Reid and Dorsey don't believe there's a QB in the draft capable of changing the Chiefs fortunes in 2013.

Only time will tell if they're right or wrong.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I strongly disagree.

If the Chiefs suck ass this year and draft in the Top Ten, it'll most likely be because of quarterback play.

I hardly think that Reid and Dorsey feel that QB position is insignificant.

But the odds of that happening are relatively low.

If Smith gets injured and the Chiefs win four games, can you blame the season's failure on him?

If the Chiefs win seven games, what do you do with him?

In all likelihood this team will win 6-10 games next year which puts you out of the running for an elite QB.

The options are this:

Hope Alex Smith is far better than what he's shown
Hope Smith gets injured, the team submarines, moves on from him, and gets another high pick
Hope Smith reverts to his pre-Harbaugh form

Because unless one of those three outcomes happen, they will be in purgatory.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

It's a bad strategy for the Royals, sure. But Clark will earn beaucoup money with the Chiefs whether or not there are blackouts or not.

The blackouts definitely hurt the Chiefs and they hurt local businesses even more.

[jd34]

So being new to this forum, I have a question: Do people here really believe Geno Smith is a top-of-the-draft QB? I have read a lot of draft analysts and the majority say he would have been a 2nd round pick last year.

I think the best hope would be that Alex Smith does a solid job for at least a year or two and wait for next year's draft to get better quality at QB. Next year has better players and better depth at that position.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by BossChief

We have to have hope that there are 3 teams that want to move up for Geno and that they believe the Jaguars will take him at 2...otherwise, our pick doesn't hold much weight.

I just don't see how the Jags pass on Geno because their QB situation is horrific as well. Banking on Chad Henne's last few games of last season? Hopefully Reid/Dorsey are in the ears of the Bills,Eagles,Jets,Browns,and Cards creating a huge sense of urgency with those teams about the Jags potentially taking Geno.

[lcarus]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

But the odds of that happening are relatively low.

If Smith gets injured and the Chiefs win four games, can you blame the season's failure on him?

If the Chiefs win seven games, what do you do with him?

In all likelihood this team will win 6-10 games next year which puts you out of the running for an elite QB.

The options are this:

Hope Alex Smith is far better than what he's shown
Hope Smith gets injured, the team submarines, moves on from him, and gets another high pick
Hope Smith reverts to his pre-Harbaugh form

Because unless one of those three outcomes happen, they will be in purgatory.

Or we could realize that great QBs don't always come from a top 1-5 pick and get a good one with the 15th pick or whatever. Not that that would ever happen. Even if we had the top pick last year, Clark and Pioli would have tried to at least talk themselves out of drafting Luck. "Hmm, Luck is nice, but if we trade down I've been eyeing a TE from Utah State that could really help Cassel"

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Because unless one of those three outcomes happen, they will be in purgatory.

They might be in purgatory but when was the last time the Chiefs finished with consecutive 8-8 records? When was the last time they put together consecutive winning seasons?

[Brock]

Originally Posted by jd34

I think the best hope would be that Alex Smith does a solid job for at least a year or two and wait for next year's draft to get better quality at QB. Next year has better players and better depth at that position.

said by some dumbass every year.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I dont give a **** what Joe Pumpkinbutt in the ****ing stands wants or needs. That dumb sonofobitch needs to settle his fat ass down, and accept the growth phase of a rookie with franchise potential. Then his dumbass can actually enjoy a playoff WIN with his water-brew and brautwurst.
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[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie

I dont give a **** what Joe Pumpkinbutt in the ****ing stands wants or needs. That dumb sonofobitch needs to settle his fat ass down, and accept the growth phase of a rookie with franchise potential. Then his dumbass can actually enjoy a playoff WIN with his water-brew and brautwurst.
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I didn't realize that you work in marketing.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

NFL teams can completely turn around in one year, if there's a QB available that has the talent to change that franchise.

It's quite clear that Reid and Dorsey don't believe there's a QB in the draft capable of changing the Chiefs fortunes in 2013.

Only time will tell if they're right or wrong.

Even if they are right, why trade valuable picks for a guy like Smith when the team needs so much work?

Even if they despise every 2013 QB they were never pot-committed to Alex Smith until they decided to commit themselves.

If they sign a Matt Moore type to start and punt on the QBs this year, they could angle flipping 2.34 into future picks. Now they can't do that.

If they want to move up next year, they lack ammunition because of the Smith trade.

The reprehensible part of this trade to me is two-fold: 1) It treats 2013 as the only year of the team that matters 2) It severely decreases the team's leverage and ability to acquire a difference maker under center.

This leads me to a few conclusions:

1) Clark Hunt doesn't really care about winning big
2) This regime is overly consumed with winning now than building a consistent winner.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by jd34

So being new to this forum, I have a question: Do people here really believe Geno Smith is a top-of-the-draft QB? I have read a lot of draft analysts and the majority say he would have been a 2nd round pick last year.

I think the best hope would be that Alex Smith does a solid job for at least a year or two and wait for next year's draft to get better quality at QB. Next year has better players and better depth at that position.

I'm not going to go to in depth as you're probably a complete waste of time and will never contribute anything to this forum worth reading but yes, Geno is a 1.1 caliber QB in this draft.

In regards to last years draft, he would have likely gone behind Tannehill and ahead of Weeden but your post leaves so much speculation that it is a ridiculous question (Are you comparing 2012-13 Geno or 11/12 Geno for that draft).

Additionally, from what little I've seen the QBs next year are significantly behind Geno/Barkley in terms of adequately diagnosing fronts/coverages and going through progressions.