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Old 03-12-2013, 02:45 PM  
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Trade Official: QB Alex Smith to #Chiefs confirmed

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Trade Official: QB Alex Smith to #Chiefs confirmed. Stay tuned to http://KCchiefs.com for more info #chiefskingdom


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The Alex Smith to #Chiefs trade is now official. 49ers get 2nd round pick plus conditional 2014 pick. Chiefs get starting QB



The San Francisco 49ers have agreed to a trade with the Kansas City Chiefs. The 49ers will acquire an undisclosed 2013 draft choice, and a conditional pick in the 2014 NFL Draft, in return for sending QB Alex Smith to the Chiefs. Smith must pass a physical in Kansas City for the trade to be executed.

“We would like to thank Alex for his contributions to the 49ers organization over the past eight years,” said 49ers General Manager Trent Baalke. “He is a true professional who represented the 49ers with class on and off the field.”

Originally the first overall draft pick in the 2005 NFL Draft by San Francisco, Smith spent eight seasons in the red and gold. During his tenure with the 49ers, he started 75 of the 80 games in which he played, completing 1,290 of 2,177 pass attempts (59.3%) for 14,280 yards and 81 TDs.

In 2012, Smith was 6-2-1 as a starter, completing 153 of 218 pass attempts (70.2%) for 1,737 yards with 13 TDs and 5 INTs, and a QB rating of 104.1. In 2011, Smith led the 49ers to their first NFC West title and postseason berth since 2002. He threw for a career-high 3,144 yards on 273 of 445 pass attempts with 17 TDs, 5 INTs and a 90.7 QB rating.

Born in Seattle, WA, Smith attended Helix High School in LaMesa, CA. At the University of Utah, Smith boasted a 21-1 record as a starter and became the first player in school history to be named a finalist for the Heisman Trophy.



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Old 03-13-2013, 11:48 PM   #526
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Where does the defense have to be?
I dunno, but again, even if our defense is top 10, there's a pretty big gap between 10 and 2, especially when you're playing Peyton Manning instead of Sam Bradford.

Alex Smith had a perfect storm in San Francisco. That's unlikely to be replicated here.
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:48 PM   #527
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One thing to consider: Despite Reid's QB prowess, how many games does he cost his team with his egregious clock management?
And play calling in certain game situations.
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:48 PM   #528
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They drop in short zones because he can't take the top off the defense. That's also why he's so efficient on those early downs. They guard against the deeper pass, giving up the shorter routes as a concession.

Unless he can consistently make the passes he made against the Saints in 2011 he'll face the same issues that Chad Pennington did.
I'm really curious to see what he can do with a 'run under' deep threat.

I said it in another thread, but I was really surprised by how often he overthrew deep passes. He doesn't throw a 'hard' deep ball at all - he has to throw one that his WR runs under. Crabtree doesn't get separation; he's not a guy that's going to do that. Avery, on the other hand, can be that guy.

And another interesting element would be something as simple as Jamaal Charles on a wheel route. We forget how dynamic Charles was downfield when he was backing up LJ. If you send him up the field, he can create pretty massive mismatches.

I agree with you - he needs to do something to make teams respect the deep halves. And no, I don't think someone like Bowe would've been the answer. However, a burner that can run under the lofted deep balls that Smith throws might be.
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:49 PM   #529
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I'd also add that not having Vernon Davis is probably going to be a bigger problem than people think.

While we have Bowe, when your QB can't threaten past 20 yards, WRs become far less effective.

Without the additional threat of a freak athletic TE controlling the hash, and absolutely changing coverages, defenses are going to defend Alex Smith differently here, I'd wager. Particularly in the red zone.
Ya know what I'm most afraid of GtH? I'm afraid of Alex Smith leaving JC out to dry on out passes to him. Hope this is unwarranted fear.
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:50 PM   #530
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Ya know what I'm most afraid of GtH? I'm afraid of Alex Smith leaving JC out to dry on out passes to him. Hope this is unwarranted fear.
You mean like he did to Frank Gore all the time?
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:54 PM   #531
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Ya know what I'm most afraid of GtH? I'm afraid of Alex Smith leaving JC out to dry on out passes to him. Hope this is unwarranted fear.
Alex Smith, by all accounts, has very good short accuracy.

What's more concerning to me is that he seems like the kind of guy who isn't even going to take a chance of exposing a WRs ribs.

Sometimes you gotta squeeze that shit in there and tell the WR to deal with it.
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I'd also add that not having Vernon Davis is probably going to be a bigger problem than people think.

While we have Bowe, when your QB can't threaten past 20 yards, WRs become far less effective.

Without the additional threat of a freak athletic TE controlling the hash, and absolutely changing coverages, defenses are going to defend Alex Smith differently here, I'd wager. Particularly in the red zone.
Oh I think it's going to be a pretty substantial problem. I think a healthy Moeaki will help and I think the fact that teams will have to almost spy Charles out of the backfield will help even more (Gore could be caught up to; give Charles the ball in space and it's all over but the tears). But yeah, not having that built-in mismatch will hurt him.

It's why Avery could be so critical. Right now the biggest potential advantage this team could have over the weapons he had in SF is a legitimate #2 WR that can spread the field. He didn't have that in SF at all. If that comes to fruition, it could go a long ways towards mitigating the loss of Davis.
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I'm really curious to see what he can do with a 'run under' deep threat.

I said it in another thread, but I was really surprised by how often he overthrew deep passes. He doesn't throw a 'hard' deep ball at all - he has to throw one that his WR runs under. Crabtree doesn't get separation; he's not a guy that's going to do that. Avery, on the other hand, can be that guy.

And another interesting element would be something as simple as Jamaal Charles on a wheel route. We forget how dynamic Charles was downfield when he was backing up LJ. If you send him up the field, he can create pretty massive mismatches.

I agree with you - he needs to do something to make teams respect the deep halves. And no, I don't think someone like Bowe would've been the answer. However, a burner that can run under the lofted deep balls that Smith throws might be.
That's why I thought DHB was actually a good signing for this team. No complaints with Avery, especially given some of the insane contracts given out today.
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I'm not going to go to in depth as you're probably a complete waste of time and will never contribute anything to this forum worth reading but yes, Geno is a 1.1 caliber QB in this draft.

In regards to last years draft, he would have likely gone behind Tannehill and ahead of Weeden but your post leaves so much speculation that it is a ridiculous question (Are you comparing 2012-13 Geno or 11/12 Geno for that draft).

Additionally, from what little I've seen the QBs next year are significantly behind Geno/Barkley in terms of adequately diagnosing fronts/coverages and going through progressions.
Thank you for your warm reception.

I have spent a large amount of time studying the upcoming draft and I stand by my position, so we will just agree to disagree.
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Alex Smith, by all accounts, has very good short accuracy.

What's more concerning to me is that he seems like the kind of guy who isn't even going to take a chance of exposing a WRs ribs.

Sometimes you gotta squeeze that shit in there and tell the WR to deal with it.
You'll never ever see a better example of that than the TD throw to beat the Saints.

You see him look off the underneath coverage and as soon as Davis clears, he steps and delivers an absolute seed to Davis just as the safety is closing in. Davis gets in the air, catches the ball and delivers the hit to Roman Harper, who had timed his collision absolutely perfectly.

He's capable of doing it and when the situation mandates it, is clearly willing to do it. Like I said, though, he appears more inclined to take the 'live to fight another day' approach.

And there are going to be times that we're damn happy about that, even if we don't really realize it.
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Alex Smith, by all accounts, has very good short accuracy.

What's more concerning to me is that he seems like the kind of guy who isn't even going to take a chance of exposing a WRs ribs.

Sometimes you gotta squeeze that shit in there and tell the WR to deal with it.
He doesn't take risk, he takes a lot of sacks. He is going break apart Mid~Air~Season.
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I'm really curious to see what he can do with a 'run under' deep threat.

I said it in another thread, but I was really surprised by how often he overthrew deep passes. He doesn't throw a 'hard' deep ball at all - he has to throw one that his WR runs under. Crabtree doesn't get separation; he's not a guy that's going to do that. Avery, on the other hand, can be that guy.

And another interesting element would be something as simple as Jamaal Charles on a wheel route. We forget how dynamic Charles was downfield when he was backing up LJ. If you send him up the field, he can create pretty massive mismatches.

I agree with you - he needs to do something to make teams respect the deep halves. And no, I don't think someone like Bowe would've been the answer. However, a burner that can run under the lofted deep balls that Smith throws might be.
Alex threw one of the best wheel route throws I have ever seen earlier this year.

Another thing is that Alex is very smart and can check into the right play. He also makes a lot of changes at the line and this all goes unnoticed

2012 Regular season
Frank Gore with Alex averaged 82 yards per game(5.5 yards per carry)in 8 games
Frank Gore with Colin averaged 65 yards per game(3.9 yards per carry)in 7 games

I did not use any stats from the rams game where Alex played 1 quarter.
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Frank Gore with Alex averaged 82 yards per game(5.5 yards per carry)in 8 games

Frank Gore with Colin averaged 65 yards per game(3.9 yards per carry)in 7 games

I did not use any stats from the rams game where Alex played 1 quarter.
What was also cool that your scored more points with Colin Kaepernick.

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He doesn't take risk, he takes a lot of sacks. He is going break apart Mid~Air~Season.
How many sacks did Andrew Luck take in 2012?
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