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Old 03-18-2013, 10:03 PM   #1
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so PFF doesn't have a sophisticated enough rating system to take into account a QB who never takes any "risks" (why take risks if you don't have to?) and never makes any tough throws?

Well **** PFF then. I guess I'll never take that rating system seriously. Seems way too flawed.
I'm sure they'll go out of business now!

FYI it would be ****ing stupid to penalize a QB for something he didn't do.

And FYI, dinking and dunking is worth less points than attacking downfield, so they account for that anyway.
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:04 PM   #2
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I'm sure they'll go out of business now!

FYI it would be ****ing stupid to penalize a QB for something he didn't do.

And FYI, dinking and dunking is worth less points than attacking downfield, so they account for that anyway.
so I guess despite all of these perceived flaws he's still good enough to be the 8th best QB in the NFL.

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Old 03-18-2013, 10:04 PM   #3
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so I guess despite all of these perceived flaws he's still good enough to be the 8th best QB in the NFL.

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No, he was good enough to be the 8th best QB in one year during his career.

Whether he can repeat that ever again is highly debatable.
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:05 PM   #4
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No, he was good enough to be the 8th best QB in one year during his career.

Whether he can repeat that ever again is highly debatable.
was Matt Cassel ever a top 10 QB in any 1 year?

Was he ever a top 15?

???

?????

If not I just don't see how they can compare to one another since PFF is the best tool in the NFL to evaluate NFL players (PHIL EMERY SAID SO!!!!)

so therefore you are a hypocrite
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:06 PM   #5
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was Matt Cassel ever a top 10 QB in any 1 year?

Was he ever a top 15?

???

?????

If not I just don't see how they can compare to one another since PFF is the best tool in the NFL to evaluate NFL players (PHIL EMERY SAID SO!!!!)

so therefore you are a hypocrite
They compare to one another based on their limitations, not their PFF ratings.

You are being obtuse.
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:08 PM   #6
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They compare to one another based on their limitations, not their PFF ratings.

You are being obtuse.
Wrong. They compare in no way, shape or form.

Matt Cassel is an absolute TERRIBLE comparison for Alex Smith. Awful.
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:10 PM   #7
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Wrong. They compare in no way, shape or form.

Matt Cassel is an absolute TERRIBLE comparison for Alex Smith. Awful.
Facts are facts, Hootie.

In the case of Alex Smith vs Matt Cassel, their careers are similar, their abilities are similar, the way they play football is similar.

I'm not going to list all of this shit again. None of it can be argued.

You're just being a little shitbird.
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:06 PM   #8
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No, he was good enough to be the 8th best QB in one year during his career.

Whether he can repeat that ever again is highly debatable.
It IS debatable because he's only done so one out of seven years.

But, he is ascending, not descending, so there is a good chance that will continue.
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No, he was good enough to be the 8th best QB in one year during his career.

Whether he can repeat that ever again is highly debatable.
In reality the first four years of his career doesn't have anything to do with what kind of QB he is now. His last 30 starts he's put up a 96.5 QB rating. That's his most recent work. That will be more indictative of the QB his is right now then his career stat line. I don't know how many sacks he had over that span. It'd interesting to know though.
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In reality the first four years of his career doesn't have anything to do with what kind of QB he is now. His last 30 starts he's put up a 96.5 QB rating. That's his most recent work. That will be more indictative of the QB his is right now then his career stat line. I don't know how many sacks he had over that span. It'd interesting to know though.
He was sacked 44 times in 2011.

Ain't that some shit?
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He was sacked 44 times in 2011.

Ain't that some shit?
He was on pace for 41 last season.

However, Keapernick was on pace for 35. Still shitty.
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He was on pace for 41 last season.

However, Keapernick was on pace for 35. Still shitty.
No one gives a **** about Colin Kaepernick.

We give a **** about Alex Smith, and he LOVES to take sacks, as if each one extended a drive.
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He was sacked 44 times in 2011.

Ain't that some shit?
Then he was on pace for far fewer in 2012. Seems his arrow is still pointing up. I'm going to keep my expectations in check but Smith is better than Cassel.
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Then he was on pace for far fewer in 2012.
Actually, no.
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Then he was on pace for far fewer in 2012. Seems his arrow is still pointing up. I'm going to keep my expectations in check but Smith is better than Cassel.
9.4% sack rate per dropback in 2012. Arrow pointing down.
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