**** OFFICIAL 2013-2014 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread ****

[ArrowheadHawk]

#18 AP/ #20 Coaches (10-4,1-0)

Players

Spoiler!

Returning Players
1 Naadir Tharpe Guard 5-11 170 Jr.
3 Andrew White III Guard 6-6 210 So.
4 Justin Wesley Forward 6-9 220 RS Sr.
10 Evan Manning Guard 6-3 170 So.
11 Tyler Self Guard 6-2 165 So.
20 Niko Roberts Guard 5-11 175 Sr.
21 Christian Garrett Guard 6-3 185 Jr.
31 Jamari Traylor Forward 6-8 220 RS So.
33 Landen Lucas Forward 6-10 240 RS Fr.
34 Perry Ellis Forward 6-8 225 So.

Incoming Class
SF ***** Wayne Selden
C ***** Joel Embiid
PG **** Conner Frankamp
SF **** Brannen Greene
PG **** Frank Mason
SF ***** Andrew Wiggins

Transfers
Hunter Mickelson
Tarik Black

Non Conference
11/8/2013 Louisiana Monroe Lawrence, Kan. W(80-63) (1-0)
11/12/2013 Duke Chicago, Ill. W(94-83) (2-0)
11/19/2013 Iona Lawrence, Kan. W(86-66) (3-0)
11/22/2013 Towson W(88-58) (4-0)
11/28/2013 Wake Forest Paradise Island, Bahamas W(87-78) (5-0)
11/29/2013 Villanova Paradise Island, Bahamas L(59-63) (5-1)
11/30/2013 UTEP Paradise Island, Bahamas W(67-63) (6-1)
12/7/2013 Colorado Boulder, Colo. L(72-75) (6-2)
12/10/2013 Florida Gainesville, Fla. L(61-67) (6-3)
12/14/2013 New Mexico Kansas City, Mo. W(80-63)(7-3)
12/21/2013 Georgetown Lawrence, Kan. W(86-64)(8-3)
12/30/2013 Toledo Lawrence, Kan. W(93-83)(9-3)
1/5/2014 San Diego State Lawrence, Kan. L(57-61)(9-4)
Conference

Spoiler!

1/8/2014 Oklahoma Norman, Okla. W(90-83)(10-4,1-0)
1/11/2014 Kansas State Lawrence, Kan. 1 p.m.
1/13/2014 Iowa State Ames, Iowa 8 p.m.
1/18/2014 Oklahoma State Lawrence, Kan. 3 p.m.
1/20/2014 Baylor Lawrence, Kan. 8 p.m.
1/25/2014 TCU Fort Worth, Texas 8 p.m.
1/29/2014 Iowa State Lawrence, Kan. 8 p.m.
2/1/2014 Texas Austin, Texas 3 p.m.
2/4/2014 Baylor Waco, Texas 6 p.m.
2/8/2014 West Virginia Lawrence, Kan. 3 p.m.
2/10/2014 Kansas State Manhattan, Kan. 8 p.m.
2/15/2014 TCU Lawrence, Kan. 3 p.m.
2/18/2014 Texas Tech Lubbock, Texas 7 p.m.
2/22/2014 Texas Lawrence, Kan. 6:30 p.m.
2/24/2014 Oklahoma Lawrence, Kan. 8 p.m.
3/1/2014 Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla. 8 p.m.
3/5/2014 Texas Tech Lawrence, Kan. 7 p.m.
3/8/2014 West Virginia Morgantown, W. Va. 11 a.m.
Big 12 Championship
3/12-15/2014 TBD Kansas City, Mo. TBD Details

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by CJizzles

Yeah. Don't care.

You don't give a flip about FT?

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

You don't give a flip about FT?

don't care about this schtick you have.

[Ceej]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

You don't give a flip about FT?

In regards to Tarik, nope.

[Al Czervik]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Black shot 44% from the FT line last year in over 100 attempts. Not good.

Good god....

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by sedated

Lucas is a long-term prospect. Redshirt and prepare to make an impact in his junior and senior years.

See also: Travis Releford.

He already did redshirt. He's 6'10, stout, and isn't lacking for a drop of athleticism.

Foul trouble is going to be what dictates playing time for the bigs, if you ask me.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

He already did redshirt. He's 6'10, stout, and isn't lacking for a drop of athleticism.

Foul trouble is going to be what dictates playing time for the bigs, if you ask me.

Yes, yes he did. But that doesn't mean he will be ready in is (RS) freshman year.

Judging on Self's history we will only run 4 bigs, and one of those will get "Aldrich freshman year minutes" (5 or so per game, depending on foul trouble). IMHO its pretty clear those 4 will be Embiid, Ellis, Black, and Traylor.

Lucas is insurance if Embiid and Ellis both have monster years and bolt to the NBA, leaving us with only Traylor as a sure thing next year.

[Mr. Laz]

Tarik isn't going to be a guy that's in the game in the final minutes.


He is going to be the power enforcer type guy down low that throws his weight around.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Tarik isn't going to be a guy that's in the game in the final minutes.


He is going to be the power enforcer type guy down low that throws his weight around.

You shoot FT all game long.

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

B12 Preseason Rankings:

1. KU
2. KU Scout Team
3. OSU
4. ...

Iowa State will be right up there again.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by sedated

IMHO its pretty clear those 4 will be Embiid, Ellis, Black, and Traylor.

I honestly don't think it's as clear cut as this... Self stockpiles as much as possible... then plays who is doing the job the best. That doesn't mean the best player, necessarily - as we've seen in the past. He's given significant minutes to walk-ons in situations where you had obviously more talented players on the bench. Whether he's trying to get an individual to buy in that hasn't... whether he's rewarding players he feels earned it... or a combination of both... He has done it in multiple situations. It's why guys like Ellis ride the pine early in a Freshman season having been a High-School All-American

That's why he has 7 bigs on the roster.. if he feels Wesley gives a better effort than Lucas or Black in the now.. he'll play Wesley... I don't think there is any "clear" vision into the future rotation at this point, to be honest.

[Ultra Peanut]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Tarik isn't going to be a guy that's in the game in the final minutes.


He is going to be the power enforcer type guy down low that throws his weight around.

Theoretically, yes. Functionally, he's gonna pick up some dumb fouls and be sitting down way too soon. =[

Good luck to Tarik, but there just seemed to be a disconnect while he was at Memphis. Between David Pellom transferring in and Austin Nichols joining the team, I'm kind of just relieved to not have to worry what's up with Tarik anymore.

[saphojunkie]

I think people are wildly overlooking Landen Lucas. In fact, the only big guaranteed to start is Perry Ellis. Black is still a huge get for us, because that's five 260 pound fouls to give. Which will be valuable in the title game against Randle.

Tharpe - Mason/Frankamp
Selden - Frankamp/Greene
Wiggins - White/Greene
Ellis - Black/Traylor
Lucas - Embiid/Black

That's my guess at the starting five. I think that Embiid and The Colors (black, white, and greene) will be heavy in the rotation to start. Frankamp might start showing up more and more as we need shooters.

Who knows? We're deep as **** this year.

Also nice to remember that we have Hunter Mickelson to practice with these guys all year and then step in when Black is gone.

2014 could look like:

Tharpe
Frankamp
Mason
Greene
White
Lucas
Embiid (?)
Selden (?)
Mickelson
Okafor
Jones
Winslow

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

2014 could look like:

Tharpe
Frankamp
Mason
Greene
White
Lucas
Embiid (?)
Selden (?)
Mickelson
Okafor
Jones
Winslow

That's absolutely disgusting and borderline not fair.

[the Talking Can]

lmao...Lucas is not starting, and is not starting over Embiid

Lucas was a fringe-100 player in a weak recruiting class...I'm sure he'll be able to contribute some minutes at some point

but on next year's team? nope

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

I think people are wildly overlooking Landen Lucas. In fact, the only big guaranteed to start is Perry Ellis. Black is still a huge get for us, because that's five 260 pound fouls to give. Which will be valuable in the title game against Randle.

Tharpe - Mason/Frankamp
Selden - Frankamp/Greene
Wiggins - White/Greene
Ellis - Black/Traylor
Lucas - Embiid/Black

That's my guess at the starting five. I think that Embiid and The Colors (black, white, and greene) will be heavy in the rotation to start. Frankamp might start showing up more and more as we need shooters.

Who knows? We're deep as **** this year.

Also nice to remember that we have Hunter Mickelson to practice with these guys all year and then step in when Black is gone.

2014 could look like:

Tharpe
Frankamp
Mason
Greene
White
Lucas
Embiid (?)
Selden (?)
Mickelson
Okafor
Jones
Winslow

I think you have Traylor way too low on the DC.