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Old 07-23-2013, 07:24 PM  
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Go on record: What will make the Reid regime a success?
So what will make you happy with the Reid hire?
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Old 07-24-2013, 07:29 AM   #76
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Competence.

It has been a very long time since we have had that in KC.
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Old 07-24-2013, 11:32 AM   #77
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Reid already has boobs...
In that case, I change my answer to only one thing that would make the Reid regime a success:

1. Two pairs of boobs.
2. Eye surgery
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Old 07-24-2013, 12:26 PM   #78
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winning more then one super bowl = A+ Success
winning a super bowl = A success
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Winning A playoff game C-
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Old 07-24-2013, 12:36 PM   #79
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To be in contention for a Super Bowl win. Of course a Super Bowl win is the ultimate goal but I don't really think that not getting that done necessarily equates to an unsuccessful year. To me never being in contention equates to unsuccessful. The 49 er's didn't win the SB but I surely wouldn't call their last year an unsuccessful one. There were a number of teams that could have gotten to the SB; one missed tackle or bad bounce away...Hopefully the Chiefs will be in that small grouping in the near future.
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winning more then one super bowl = A+ Success
winning a super bowl = A success
losing a super bowl = A-
AFC championship = B
Winning some playoff games = C
Winning A playoff game C-


This team has had three playoff appearances in the past 15 years.

105 wins versus 138 loss (.314 winning percentage).

A playoff win is a C-?
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Old 07-24-2013, 01:04 PM   #81
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This team has had three playoff appearances in the past 15 years.

105 wins versus 138 loss (.314 winning percentage).

A playoff win is a C-?
Yeah, I think one playoff win in Reid's entire tenure here would be a C-.

Hell, that might be generous.
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Old 07-24-2013, 01:11 PM   #82
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Yeah, I think one playoff win in Reid's entire tenure here would be a C-.

Hell, that might be generous.
Wow, you guys really have high expectations for a franchise that hasn't won a playoff game in more than 20 years.
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Old 07-24-2013, 01:16 PM   #83
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Yeah, I think one playoff win in Reid's entire tenure here would be a C-.

Hell, that might be generous.
That being the case, I assume that Cunningham, Vermeil, Edwards, Haley and Crennel all deserve F's?

It's pretty clear that Crennel is the worst coach in the history of the Chiefs, so an F minus is a given. I'd give Haley and Edwards a D minus and Vermeil a C.

I'm not sure how actually winning a playoff game would qualify as a C minus.
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Old 07-24-2013, 01:19 PM   #84
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A C- isn't terrible but close, but not quite average. 16 teams in the AFC, if you count 1st round byes as a 'win' since you are automatically advancing to the 2nd round, makes 4 playoff wins a season. By average each team should get one win in four seasons. So if Reid is here for 5-6 seasons, 1 playoff win = C-. Yeah I know shit doesn't always work that way, but I still say 1 playoff win in 5-6 seasons is a C-. Just because this organization strives for mediocrity does not mean the fans have to buy into that.
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Old 07-24-2013, 01:21 PM   #85
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This team has had three playoff appearances in the past 15 years.

105 wins versus 138 loss (.314 winning percentage).

A playoff win is a C-?
No shit.

Jesus Christ, people. You're aware that every other team in the league is paid to beat you as well, yes?

A success? Make the playoffs more years than you don't and be a legitimate threat to do some damage when you're there over the next 3-5 years.

I'm not going to say "no playoff wins = shit" because frankly, the NFL has more lucky bounces and fluke plays that determine seasons than any other sport out there. Marty Schottenhiemers entire time in KC is viewed differently if not for a phantom offensive PI call and a missed kick. That's it. And those 2 events have also made Chiefs fans largely insane.

Sure, winning a SB is the ultimate goal and duh - doing so makes the Reid era a success. But if the Chiefs are steadily in a position to compete for one, actually compete for one (not that 2010 smoke and mirrors shit), I don't see how you can't call this a successful era.

Reid took over a shitty franchise, fellas. It's time to realize that and accept it. This team is a joke in NFL circles. While we're circling games against the Jags and Cardinals as must-wins, everyone else is circling KC. There is one big !@#$ing hill for Andy Reid to climb and it's time we have reasonable expectations of when we'll be willing to give him credit for doing a fine job of it.
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That being the case, I assume that Cunningham, Vermeil, Edwards, Haley and Crennel all deserve F's?

It's pretty clear that Crennel is the worst coach in the history of the Chiefs, so an F minus is a given. I'd give Haley and Edwards a D minus and Vermeil a C.

I'm not sure how actually winning a playoff game would qualify as a C minus.
DickV gets a C-. Crennel gets a D+ as he only really had one year. Edwards gets a D-. Haley a D.
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This team has had three playoff appearances in the past 15 years.

105 wins versus 138 loss (.314 winning percentage).

A playoff win is a C-?
Who gives a rat's ass what previous teams have done?

This is about expectations for the Reid regime.

For any coach taking a job, the ultimate goal should be a Lombardi Trophy.
While anything short of that may not be labeled as a failure, neither can it be labeled a success.
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That being the case, I assume that Cunningham, Vermeil, Edwards, Haley and Crennel all deserve F's?
Vermeil's a D. The rest are Fs. Clearly.

Isn't the whole point of bringing in Reid to change the fortunes of the franchise? You're suggesting giving him a pass for maintaining the status quo.
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DickV gets a C-. Crennel gets a D+ as he only really had one year. Edwards gets a D-. Haley a D.
What the ****?

Crennel only got one year because nobody has ever been a worse NFL coach than Romeo Crennel. Ever. If his grade is not an F, such a grade does not exist.

Seriously, he's only 1/3 of a letter grade worse than Vermeil? Are you high?

Edwards is the reason we have any talent on this team at all. Vermeil built a legitimately fun and exciting team. Haley actually made some chicken salad out of this pile of Pioli built chicken-shit.

Vermeil: B-
Haley: C
Edwards: C- (seriously, look at the talent that came from that era)
Crennel: ****ing 0. Not even an F, just a flat 0. This dude was awful.
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I'd argue that Frank Ganz was at least as bad as Crennel.
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