Whitlock with a good article on the Riley Cooper situation

[ThatRaceCardGuy]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

What did he say that was wrong with the black website stuff? It's true.

Same goes for T.V. Totally acceptable for there to be a "BET", but imagine if some network tried to make a "WET"....all ****ing hell would break loose.

"White Entertainment Television? They only focus on white artists and white current events? RACIST"

I've heard this argument before and I don't get what the issue is. I have no problem with Italian American or polish American or Jewish or Mexican American or Irish Americans website or stations geared towards that audience. BET has just as many white artists showcased as tnt or country music station has black artists. There arr plenty of shows geared towards white audiences and television stations. .they just don't call it "white tv." Let's not forget why stations like Bet came about...because white music stations like MTV didnt or rarely played black artist. T.V has always been programed for mainly white audicnes so there was no need to call it white tv..because it was already "white tv." BET came out of necessity so blac artist could have a place to showcase their videos...hence the name "bet." Silly argument really. .shouldn't even have to explain it. It's not like black tv was invented for blacks to be racist it came about because of the exclusion of black entertainment on tv , and movie screens.

[9er guy]

Originally Posted by Thatguy

Let's not forget why stations like Bet came about...because white music stations like MTV didnt or rarely played black artist.

Defintely. BET was created when there little to no representation of black culture in mainstream media.

[ThatRaceCardGuy]

Originally Posted by 9er guy

Defintely. BET was created when there little to no representation of black culture in mainstream media.

I don't get why people can't understand that.

[9er guy]

Originally Posted by Thatguy

I don't get why people can't understand that.

I honestly think most people just don't really put 2 and 2 together.

People would rather complain because something exists rather than thinking about why it exists.

[ThatRaceCardGuy]

Originally Posted by 9er guy

I honestly think most people just don't really put 2 and 2 together.

People would rather complain because something exists rather than thinking about why it exists.

It's a way for idiots to attack black ccultural without being perceived as racist. You have to be a complete idiot to not understand why BET was created.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Thatguy

It's a way for idiots to attack black ccultural without being perceived as racist. You have to be a complete idiot to not understand why BET was created.

I don't give a **** why it was created. I don't care that it exists period.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by 9er guy

Defintely. BET was created when there little to no representation of black culture in mainstream media.

That's not quite true.

African Americans were sports heroes represented in various sports media. There were high profile magazines for African American audiences and African Americans were well represented on TV shows like The Jeffersons, Good Times and others.

For the record. I have absolutely no issues with BET or the name. I think Mr. Johnson was brilliant for creating this network. Starz inBlack caters to African Americans as well. No issue.

As for the notion of "White Entertainment Television", that falls under the category of the other 300+ channels not named BET.

And finally, FWIW, BET is owned by Viacom, the whitest corporation, ever.

[ThatRaceCardGuy]

[QUOTE=DaneMcCloud;9853626]That's not quite true.

African Americans were sports heroes represented in various sports media. There were high profile magazines for African American audiences and African Americans were well represented on TV shows like The Jeffersons, Good Times and others.

For the record. I have absolutely no issues with BET or the name. I think Mr. Johnson was brilliant for creating this network. Starz inBlack caters to African Americans as well. No issue.

As for the notion of "White Entertainment Television", that falls under the category of the other 300+ channels not named BET.

And finally, FWIW, BET is owned by Viacom, the whitest corporation,

I have no issue with other culturals celebrating their heritage either. The reason wh you can't have "white" tv is because of the history of what that means in our society. If something was for whites only it was usually if not always at the exclusion of others: Jim crow laws for example. BET wasn't created to exclude it was created to showcase a cultural that was being excluded from mainstream pop music and television.

[vailpass]

[QUOTE=Thatguy;9853657]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

That's not quite true.

African Americans were sports heroes represented in various sports media. There were high profile magazines for African American audiences and African Americans were well represented on TV shows like The Jeffersons, Good Times and others.

For the record. I have absolutely no issues with BET or the name. I think Mr. Johnson was brilliant for creating this network. Starz inBlack caters to African Americans as well. No issue.

As for the notion of "White Entertainment Television", that falls under the category of the other 300+ channels not named BET.

And finally, FWIW, BET is owned by Viacom, the whitest corporation,

I have no issue with other culturals celebrating their heritage either. The reason wh you can't have "white" tv is because of the history of what that means in our society. If something was for whites only it was usually if not always at the exclusion of others: Jim crow laws for example. BET wasn't created to exclude it was created to showcase a cultural that was being excluded from mainstream pop music and television.

[9er guy]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

That's not quite true.

African Americans were sports heroes represented in various sports media. There were high profile magazines for African American audiences and African Americans were well represented on TV shows like The Jeffersons, Good Times and others.

There is a difference between shows with black actors existing and having a channel dedicated to the culture.

And the fact that you're citing "The Jeffersons" and "Good Times" as "black culture", kind of illustrates my point.

BET was founded in 1982. At the time the only popular black show was
"The Jefferson's" and again that's a comedy show. It's not really reflective of black culture.

That's like me saying "Growing Pains" is a representative of white culture.



You're right about sports. But we seemed to be relegated to that domain for quite some time.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by 9er guy

There is a difference between shows with black actors existing and having a channel dedicated to the culture.

And the fact that you're citing "The Jeffersons" and "Good Times" as "black culture", kind of illustrates my point.

BET was founded in 1982. At the time the only popular black show was
"The Jefferson's" and again that's a comedy show. It's not really reflective of black culture.

That's like me saying "Growing Pains" is a representative of white culture.

You're right about sports. But we seemed to be relegated to that domain for quite some time.

BET was founded in 1980.

I understand exactly why it was founded: Capitalism. There was a gaping hole in the broadcast industry. Mr. Johnson went to great lengths to start this network and he should applauded for his insight and effort.

The Jeffersons and Good Times, like Growing Pains, represented segments of black and white culture. There has never been, nor will there ever be, a TV program or film that accurately represents every segment of black, white, Asian or Hispanic life, because that's simply impossible.

We're far too diverse as humans.

[9er guy]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

BET was founded in 1980.

I understand exactly why it was founded: Capitalism. There was a gaping hole in the broadcast industry. Mr. Johnson went to great lengths to start this network and he should applauded for his insight and effort.

The Jeffersons and Good Times, like Growing Pains, represented segments of black and white culture. There has never been, nor will there ever be, a TV program or film that accurately represents every segment of black, white, Asian or Hispanic life, because that's simply impossible.

We're far too diverse as humans.

Founded in 1980. Launched in 1982.

You make some good points and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by 9er guy

Founded in 1980. Launched in 1982.

You make some good points and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

You, too, Man!

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

BET was founded in 1980.

I understand exactly why it was founded: Capitalism. There was a gaping hole in the broadcast industry. Mr. Johnson went to great lengths to start this network and he should applauded for his insight and effort.

The Jeffersons and Good Times, like Growing Pains, represented segments of black and white culture. There has never been, nor will there ever be, a TV program or film that accurately represents every segment of black, white, Asian or Hispanic life, because that's simply impossible.

We're far too diverse as humans.

Solid post.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by 9er guy

There is a difference between shows with black actors existing and having a channel dedicated to the culture.

And the fact that you're citing "The Jeffersons" and "Good Times" as "black culture", kind of illustrates my point.

BET was founded in 1982. At the time the only popular black show was
"The Jefferson's" and again that's a comedy show. It's not really reflective of black culture.

That's like me saying "Growing Pains" is a representative of white culture.



You're right about sports. But we seemed to be relegated to that domain for quite some time.

Show me that smile, oh, show me that smile!