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Old 09-01-2013, 03:34 PM   #1
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Hudson got destroyed here.
totally agree about Hudson getting destroyed there BUT Smith still could have made that throw don't you think? Where the yellow circle becomes visible is where Smith should have released the ball IMO.
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Old 09-01-2013, 03:39 PM   #2
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totally agree about Hudson getting destroyed there BUT Smith still could have made that throw don't you think? Where the yellow circle becomes visible is where Smith should have released the ball IMO.
Hudson gets "destroyed" there because Asamoah comes in from the right and pushes Hudson's man off him, allowing his momentum to carry around Hudson and into the pocket.

Hudson had his guy locked up until that happened. Hell, you've got five offensive linemen standing in the middle of the field and Hudson is the only guy still trying to maintain a block on his guy.

If you want to bitch about that play, you better bitch about Asamoah versus Hudson.
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Old 09-01-2013, 03:51 PM   #3
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Hudson gets "destroyed" there because Asamoah comes in from the right and pushes Hudson's man off him, allowing his momentum to carry around Hudson and into the pocket.

Hudson had his guy locked up until that happened. Hell, you've got five offensive linemen standing in the middle of the field and Hudson is the only guy still trying to maintain a block on his guy.

If you want to bitch about that play, you better bitch about Asamoah versus Hudson.
This proves you have no 'football eyes'. Hudson gets bull rushed all to hell and Asamoah who recognizes this helps out but Hudson does NOT HAVE THE FEET,QUICKNESS or the strength to stay with the block to keep the defender off Smith's ass. But Smith f'd up IMO by giving up on the play too soon because he still could have thrown that pass which is not a good sign giving up on plays too soon.
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Old 09-01-2013, 04:04 PM   #4
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This proves you have no 'football eyes'. Hudson gets bull rushed all to hell and Asamoah who recognizes this helps out but Hudson does NOT HAVE THE FEET,QUICKNESS or the strength to stay with the block to keep the defender off Smith's ass. But Smith f'd up IMO by giving up on the play too soon because he still could have thrown that pass which is not a good sign giving up on plays too soon.
I am sorry sir, but I see it differently.

It is a three man rush with the Saints dropping eight into zone coverage. The Chiefs are in a straight block with Smith in a three step drop. Hudson does get bullrushed, but he's got his man in front of him and he recovers only to find Asamoah has pushed his man around him, with the defenders momentum fuelled by Asamoah's untimely redirection able to carry him past Hudson's left and into the pocket.

Hudson is still able to recover and attempts to keep his hands on his man, but the extra inertia provided by Asamoah proves too much, enabling the defender to redirect Smith out of the pocket and to the right.

And Smith did not give up on that pass play. The LCB was sitting in zone coverage on the corner and was going to jump the play. It was a heady understanding of the coverage where Smith wisely chose to throw the ball away and live for another play - which they did.

I believe that your two main criticisms are unfounded and improperly placed. I beseech you to take a more objective approach to analyzing the play, free of the now obvious negative bias you possess.
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I am sorry sir, but I see it differently.

Hudson does get bullrushed, but he's got his man in front of him and he recovers only to find Asamoah has pushed his man around him, with the defenders momentum fuelled by Asamoah's untimely redirection able to carry him past Hudson's left and into the pocket.

Hudson is still able to recover and attempts to keep his hands on his man, but the extra inertia provided by Asamoah proves too much, enabling the defender to redirect Smith out of the pocket and to the right.

And Smith did not give up on that pass play. The LCB was sitting in zone coverage on the corner and was going to jump the play. It was a heady understanding of the coverage where Smith wisely chose to throw the ball away and live for another play - which they did.

Recovery by Hudson ??? Seriously after getting bull rushed ????? I didn't see the recovery and neither did Asamoah otherwise he wouldn't have attempted to aid. After Asam aids Hudson, Hudson neither has the quick feet or the strength to stay with the 'inertia' as you say to stay with the block.

Smith can't make that throw ? Seriously ???? Look at it again. With Smith having to adjust to a brisk roll out with the WR following him and actually coming towards him starting at the 5 yd line and finishing at the 10 yrd line, that back deep corner never comes up and besides he is waaaay too deep to jump that route for as fast as that play developed between Smith and the WR. I have played QB and I still make that throw every time because I recognize that CB is too deep to jump the route because of the speed of the play and the WR is actually coming towards me which walls off the CB even if he tried.

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