QBs picked in the first two rounds 06-10....and their fates.

[Kaepernick]

Completely absolutely lost in this discussion is the contribution of QB development. Rex Ryan couldn't get jack spit out of Andrew Luck. He would have ruined him.

I can't begin to imagine what Mike McCarthy or Mike Shanahan could have done with Matthew Stafford.

Cue the Rich Gannon article on QB development...

At least Rich Gannon understands the importance of superior QB development.

So just how many of those failed 50% 1st & 2nd round QBs were due to poor raw material or work ethic, vs INCOMPETENT QB development like Ryan or the Raiders?

I still remember Mike Singletary telling Alex Smith "Just do something. You have to do something". That is QB development? Give me a ****ing break.

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The way former NFL quarterback and most valuable player Rich Gannon sees it, the development of quarterbacks in the league is seriously lacking. Says Gannon:

"I don't think we're doing a good enough job developing the quarterback position. Some teams do a much better job, with the Green Bay Packers being one of the best.

"There are situations in the league where the quarterback is struggling, and you say, "Who's coaching him?" It's, "Well, it's the guy who was the receivers coach two years ago, but we elevated him to the quarterback coach." Well, did he ever play the position? No. Did he ever coach the position? No. And that's part of the problem.

"I remember when I played in Kansas City in the off-season we had eight-page quarterback tests. First page would be an essay; second page: multiple choice; third page: fill in the blank; fourth, fifth, sixth pages would be protections, where you had to draw up a protection versus eight different fronts. Then there would be short-answer questions. Honestly, it was about a 45-minute test. It was unbelievable.

"There was some peer pressure to get a good score, because there were other quarterbacks in that room, and you didn't want to be the one to miss five or six questions on that test. Second, it allowed the coach to know who knew what and who didn't know what. What were your areas of strength, and what were the areas where you needed more work?

"Packers Coach Mike McCarthy coached the quarterbacks in Kansas City at the time, and he took those tests to another level.

"But I go in and ask some quarterbacks, "Who makes the calls at the line of scrimmage?" and it's like, "Oh, the center does that." I'm thinking, the center? He's in a three-point stance and he's got some nose tackle in front of him. He's bent over and can't even see the safeties.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Kaepernick

Completely absolutely lost in this discussion is the contribution of QB development. Rex Ryan couldn't get jack spit out of Andrew Luck. He would have ruined him.

I can't begin to imagine what Mike McCarthy or Mike Shanahan could have done with Matthew Stafford.

Cue the Rich Gannon article on QB development...

At least Rich Gannon understands the importance of superior QB development.

So just how many of those failed 50% 1st & 2nd round QBs were due to poor raw material or work ethic, vs INCOMPETENT QB development like Ryan or the Raiders?

I still remember Mike Singletary telling Alex Smith "Just do something. You have to do something". That is QB development? Give me a ****ing break.

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The way former NFL quarterback and most valuable player Rich Gannon sees it, the development of quarterbacks in the league is seriously lacking. Says Gannon:

"I don't think we're doing a good enough job developing the quarterback position. Some teams do a much better job, with the Green Bay Packers being one of the best.

"There are situations in the league where the quarterback is struggling, and you say, "Who's coaching him?" It's, "Well, it's the guy who was the receivers coach two years ago, but we elevated him to the quarterback coach." Well, did he ever play the position? No. Did he ever coach the position? No. And that's part of the problem.

"I remember when I played in Kansas City in the off-season we had eight-page quarterback tests. First page would be an essay; second page: multiple choice; third page: fill in the blank; fourth, fifth, sixth pages would be protections, where you had to draw up a protection versus eight different fronts. Then there would be short-answer questions. Honestly, it was about a 45-minute test. It was unbelievable.

"There was some peer pressure to get a good score, because there were other quarterbacks in that room, and you didn't want to be the one to miss five or six questions on that test. Second, it allowed the coach to know who knew what and who didn't know what. What were your areas of strength, and what were the areas where you needed more work?

"Packers Coach Mike McCarthy coached the quarterbacks in Kansas City at the time, and he took those tests to another level.

"But I go in and ask some quarterbacks, "Who makes the calls at the line of scrimmage?" and it's like, "Oh, the center does that." I'm thinking, the center? He's in a three-point stance and he's got some nose tackle in front of him. He's bent over and can't even see the safeties.

Ahhhhh....yes...the ultimate question of our times......Does a highly picked QB bust because of lack of proper coaching/development.....or does he bust be because he just sucks?

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Ahhhhh....yes...the ultimate question of our times......Does a highly picked QB bust because of lack of proper coaching/development.....or does he bust be because he just sucks?

if a team spends a high round pick on a QB and doesn't develop him, that has to be just about the dumbest, most incompetent franchise in the NFL. So, if the NYJ's never had a QB coach or an OC and a QB coach to spend time with Sanchize and coach him up and make sure he's mentally and physically prepared to play the position at a high level, then that's on the NYJets. On the flipside, if the NYJets did do all the can to develop Sanchize, if they did provide a competent QB coach and OC for Sanchize and they really spent time with him and he still sucks, then cut your losses and move on.

[Dylan]

All 32 Quarterbacks As Their Team Name!

http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/...team-name.html

[Kaepernick]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Ahhhhh....yes...the ultimate question of our times......Does a highly picked QB bust because of lack of proper coaching/development.....or does he bust be because he just sucks?

Without a doubt, Jamarcus Russell was going to be a bust if Bill Walsh came back from the grave to coach him personally. But there are plenty of other promising prospects that were just ruined with inadequate development. Rushed into playing without a couple of years of solid coaching and a vet to mentor him. Some greats can learn on the fly and have the brilliant coaching to teach them on the fly. Some needed to sit and build a slower base before achieving greatness. Some were more self-taught and some had to be taught.

Nobody ever did a study on why top QB prospects busted out and who seemed to be to blame.