Chiefs start making cuts.

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PLAYERS RELEASED

Player - Position

Steven Baker - T

Josh Bellamy - WR

Jalil Brown

TE Kevin Brock

Malcolm Bronson - S

Greg Castillo - S

Kennard Cox - CB

Marcus Dixon - DL

Tommie Draheim - OL

Darin Drakeford - LB

Shaun Draughn - RB

Frankie Hammond Jr. - WR

Demetrius Harris - TE

Tysyn Hartman - DB

Austin Lane - DE

Orie Lemon - LB

Semaj Moody - CB

Toben Opurum - FB

Matt Reynolds - T

Rico Richardson - WR

Rokevious Watkins - OL

Ridge Wilson - LB/DE


WAIVED INJURED

Player - Position

Ricky Henry - G

ILB Zac Diles

Tony Moeaki - TE


Additionally, the team has waived/released the following six players: TE Kevin Brock, CB Jalil Brown, LB Zac Diles, S Bradley McDougald, DT Jerrell Powe and WR Devon Wylie.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

I don't know if you've got stuff going on personally or if something pushed you over the edge here, but youve taken on quite the opposite end demeanor than we were used too. It's fine either way, but hopefully all is well.

And I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, I don't really care either way about brown. I'm simply stating that more times than not, what he brought and was us what your gonna get with the 4th cb on your roater

He's trying to be like Clay.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Really don't have a problem with our D-line. Ascending Nose Tackle, two solid enough DEs. Nice depth guy with upside in Bailey. Good developmental guys in Catapano and Jaye Howard.

I like the Sean Smith signing. Every other move we made at CB was a complete dumpster fire. It's not a good sign when you assign your Safeties to play as your nickel guys.

I really would have rather signed canty if it were possible than Robinson, but I don't know what happened there.

I'm just not hugely concerned in our corner spot after looking around the league at the corner depth elsewhere. There's a lot of teams out there with a lot of meh.

But, I'm curious about the Abdullah in the nickel sets. It doesn't speak good about our corners either

[O.city]

Originally Posted by RunKC

He's trying to be like Clay.

I've known boss since my first days here, he showed me the ropes around here and was cool with me when I was learning the ins ad outs of cp.

So I'll refer to him in that if he says he's ok, he's ok.

[O.city]

And ftr, no one wants to be like clay.

However, there were some things that happened on here that I understandably think caused boss to throw on and extra outter shell.

That said, he gave the ok, and in my experiences with him he's always been a guy that will argue with me over shit then let it be over when it's over, so as usual I'm pretty sure boss and I are cool.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by O.city

I really would have rather signed canty if it were possible than Robinson, but I don't know what happened there.

I'm just not hugely concerned in our corner spot after looking around the league at the corner depth elsewhere. There's a lot of teams out there with a lot of meh.

But, I'm curious about the Abdullah in the nickel sets. It doesn't speak good about our corners either

We ran a lot of sets in the preseason with 2 safeties and either Abdullah or Hartman as a third "safety" in the snaps where Dunta couldn't play. I really don't think that's the design of a defense being clever. I think that's the sign of a D-coordinator who is pretty unimpressed with our CB options. Abdullah isn't even a fast FS, he's more of a SS.

It'll be made worse that we have a center fielder in Kendrick Lewis who can't make plays. I don't have a good feeling about our secondary. And I feel like our front office was a little reckless in just pitching away depth.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by O.city

Will dunta be our 2 corner?

Seems coaching might have something to do with it in the case her because they've already made changes in the secondary.

But yes, if we have Robinson singled up on other teams primary wr like we did with routt, we will probably have trouble

1) Routt was the #2 corner, not covering an opposing "primary" receiver. He was consistently targeted, though. Quarterbacks make their livings throwing at guys like Robinson and Routt.

2) do you think he would fare better against the quicker and faster guys that commonly man the slot in today's NFL? I sure don't.

Originally Posted by O.city

No, because it just doesn't make sense to me that you base the grade of an overall secondary on its 3rd best cb.

Again, who has the best secondary in football?

I'm not basing the grade of the whole secondary on Dante Robinson. Where did you get that from?

What I DID say was that opposing passers will avoid Flowers and Smith if they can target Robinson. I said it because it's true.

Also, if they plan on moving him to safety...he is getting paid like one of the best safeties in the whole league and is essentially a push of a guy that is making less than a million dollars and another FS (Hussain) that should be starting and is also making less than a million dollars (but will be looking for a payday after this season)

Sorry, but if I can chose between Lewis at less than a million or Robinson at 5-6 million...I'm choosing Lewis and spending that money elsewhere.

Just to give you an idea of what quality of player can be had for 5-6 million per year...think Elvis Dumervil.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by O.city

Demps will end up playing a lot somewhere.

Hopefully, not on defense.

[BigMeatballDave]

Dunta

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by RunKC

He's trying to be like Clay.

He, too, has seen the light.

There is no life in the void. Only checkdowns.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Hopefully, not on defense.

Demps is a perfectly fine option as a depth safety. Not sure I agree with you there.

[Bewbies]

Dunta may not cover anyone, but at some point he's gonna knock the **** out of some poor bastard crossing the middle...

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by O.city

I've known boss since my first days here, he showed me the ropes around here and was cool with me when I was learning the ins ad outs of cp.

So I'll refer to him in that if he says he's ok, he's ok.

Just a head up, it's "defer". Not being a dick, just a heads up.

This is some good discussion after the Dane/SNR whatever the **** that was.

My take, I'm worried as shit about the secondary not named Flowers or Berry and it seems like we've made a lot of moves to not get better.

However I'm choosing to believe that the dumping of seemingly serviceable players is power washing the mentality of the team rather than pure talent evaluation. But that may be a little pie in the sky on my part.

Again, it bears repeating, **** Pioli. Jesus what a franchise destroyer.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Just a head up, it's "defer". Not being a dick, just a heads up.

This is some good discussion after the Dane/SNR whatever the **** that was.

My take, I'm worried as shit about the secondary not named Flowers or Berry and it seems like we've made a lot of moves to not get better.

However I'm choosing to believe that the dumping of seemingly serviceable players is power washing the mentality of the team rather than pure talent evaluation. But that may be a little pie in the sky on my part.

Again, it bears repeating, **** Pioli. Jesus what a franchise destroyer.

I think we have plenty of options at Safety. Abdullah and Demps aren't going to set the world on fire, but they'll do a solid enough job, in my opinion. And Commings is at least a ray of hope that change can eventually come.

At CB, if our starters get injured, we don't go from solid to "solid enough." We go from solid to dumpster fire. And you're right, it feels a bit like that's because we chose the power wash mentality. That power wash mentality recklessly let Arenas loose too soon, and I can't help but wonder if it led to a bit of a fiasco with our offseason offensive tackle situation.

[Mav]

People have no idea just how good the Chiefs defense is going to be. An attacking style defense with pass rushers the caliber of Hali and Houston, Poe blowing up linemen, and two big physical corners?

Lol. Poor Blaine

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by RunKC

He's trying to be like Clay.

You just don't like me because I neg repd you a couple times and called you exactly what you are.

A football stupid poster that nobody respects the takes of.

There are very few things that Clay and I see eye to eye on, but those few things are the biggest moves of the offseason.

Alex Smith (who I am not against as a player, just the compensation given up for him. I said before the trade that I would have been ok with a third rounder for him. During my camp reports, I even said that I saw things in Alex that I saw in Trent Green when I went to every camp he was here...yeah, really Clayish)

Eric Fisher (waste of resource. Only a true fans cheer a pick like that and immediately start to tear Albert down)

Dante Robinson (guy will get burnt a lot if he is allowed on the field on defense. QBs will look for matchups against him every time he steps on the field)

Chase Daniel (we paid this guy as much as Kyle Orton got as a FA. Think about that)

Other than that, I've backed about every move they have made.

Originally Posted by O.city

And ftr, no one wants to be like clay.

However, there were some things that happened on here that I understandably think caused boss to throw on and extra outter shell.

That said, he gave the ok, and in my experiences with him he's always been a guy that will argue with me over shit then let it be over when it's over, so as usual I'm pretty sure boss and I are cool.

I consider you in the grou of posters that I wil probably always be cool with, no matter how hot it gets in the arguments because there is a mutual respect there that will never cause a line to be crossed.

In fact, I bet we grab a bite to eat after a game or a beer before one this year.

I'll be attending at least 3 games due to friends being big time fans of teams we face this year.

Believe me, when my friends and I argue over football IRL some choice words get thrown around that wouldn't be used if there wasn't a level of understanding between us.

Some people may not understand that.