Chiefs Late night bullshit: breaking down the tape on our defense. - Page 8

Direckshun · 09-08-2013, 10:28 PM

Just random thoughts on multiple viewings of our defensive snaps:

* During the first half (and the first half of the third quarter) the Chiefs were a fantastic, totally modern assortment of how they preferred to line up their DL. They played Poe 90% of the time, and they played him at nose and end. They played DeVito like 70%, and they played him at nose occasionally. They played Tyson Jackson about 70% of the time, and played him at both end positions. Catapano is our rotational guy.

* Catapano got some great snaps in, and looks incredibly promising -- a guy who was initially brought in as an OLB, but was insanely strong so the staff was like **** it, we have no depth at DE, let's try him out there. Not only does he give you extra athleticism, but the guy is stout as a mother****er against the run. You cannot run against the Chiefs.

* Let me say that again: you cannot run against the Chiefs. Jackson and DeVito are already incredibly good against the run, and Poe has finally developed to be perhaps the best of the bunch. Catapano has proven himself adept as well. Houston, Berry, Jordan, and DJ all serve their roles brilliantly in plugging gaps.

* That's probably the biggest difference between the Chiefs defense under Herm, Haley, and Crennel, compared to Reid. Under Reid (i.e. Bob Sutton), the Chiefs' gap integrity has so far been unrivaled. The entire defense moves as a singular cohesive unit. Poe is commanding double- and triple-teams, Jackson and DeVito are owning tackles, Houston and Hali are cutting off the edges, and Jordan, Johnson, and Berry are plugging gaps brilliantly.

* There are so many brilliant talents on this defense, but the emotional tone setters are clearly Hali and Flowers. Poe, Houston, Johnson, Berry, and all the others are very talented, but the emotional leaders on this defense right now are Hali and Flowers, and it looks like Berry is about a season or so away from getting there as well. Hali's hustle spreads like a virus across this defense, and you can see his pursuit borne out in Houston, DJ, Berry, Poe, and Jackson.

* Poe... what else can be said about this guy. His play today suggests he could keep developing to become the best DT this team has had since the franchise's Super Bowl days. There is only so much you can do against an all-muscle 330 lbs that's faster than most offensive lineman and stronger than most offensive lineman. You can tell his technique is developing, and the Chiefs are throwing him into all kinds of twists and stunts to create mismatches. My favorite play was probably his combined sack with Eric Berry.

* Eric Berry is being played like a linebacker, and against the Jags he played roughly 10% of his snaps at the line of scrimmage. His coverage has improved but the very best part of Berry's game: he is unblockable. Sending out offensive lineman to block him is a fool's errand. He sheds blocks like nobody's business.

* The Chiefs stuffed the box against the Jags -- they did more than stuff the box, they stuffed the line of scrimmage. So many times they lined up 7 guys along the line of scrimmage, some of them dropping back and some of them rushing. I still don't like Hali dropping back. Houston is money in coverage, though. He was on the field for every defensive snap because he is so ****ing versatile.

* Great game from Kendrick Lewis, too. Played very aggressive, lots of snaps up against the line of scrimmage. The Chiefs are treating Lewis as the FS and Berry as more of the SS, but they are mixing Lewis up all over the field, treating him as more of a hybrid between the safeties, while Berry is part-timing as a linebacker.

* If Jackson can rack up a half dozen sacks while being rock solid against the run, we should seriously work our ass off to resign him this offseason. He will be as close to that guy we drafted #3 overall as anything else we could possibly bring in.

* This defense has the talent and the defensive coordinator to be a Top 5 defense. It's definitely a Top 10 defense. The Cowboys game will be a phenomenal challenge, as Romo will willingly challenge our corners more aggressively, and Sean Smith, Husain Abdullah, and Quentin Demps will be challenged far more frequently. We can still be exposed in the passing game: Hali will have a bear of a time against Tyron Smith, but Houston and Poe should pave a path to Romo that Berry and DJ can follow. But if that passrush doesn't come as quickly as it needs to, then Sean Smith can get exposed if he's not on his game, which he all-too-frequently isn't. I don't fear any of Dallas' tertiary receivers against our nickel- and dime-backs, but I do fear Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, and Jason Witten against Sean Smith, Brandon Flowers, and Eric Berry.

But the Cowboys will not run on the Chiefs. Nobody will, this year.

chiefzilla1501 · 09-09-2013, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Gorilla

I only noticed one missed tackle by Lewis which is a big improvement imo. I'll have to watch again tonight.

Rewatcjing the game sober and not in a crowded bar, Lewis played very well. However, he employed very much in the box. Passing teams won't let him do that. He played well in the box, but he's too small to do that consistently. He needs to be exceptional to play center field especially since we play an often gambling defense. If we send a lot of pass rushers and can't get pressure, Lewis becomes a critical player for us.

**Mav** · 09-09-2013, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SeeingRed

This is going to be a BIG challenge!! This is a team that can really air it out....Romo has multiple weapons. That said if this D can hold the Cowboys in check then Denver wouldnt be all that unreasonable. BIG step up in competition this week.

Their oline is awful. And the Giants d line got pressure quite regularly on Romo. The Chiefs are better in the secondary and at linebacker than the Giants.

Dez Bryant is also nicked up.

Tony Romo is going to be in for a rough day. The Chiefs aren't going to turn the ball over 6 times.

wink91wink · 09-09-2013, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SeeingRed

Houston said he is going after the sack record of 22 in an interview after the game. He is 19 away with 15 to play. Big dream but he gets 22 and Chiefs are in post season

Houston and Poe really looked like men amongst boys in that game.

Rasputin · 09-09-2013, 01:55 PM

I hate fools gold. Justin Blackmon didn't even play and I wonder if Chad Henne would have played better than Gabbert? I'm sure he would have because the Jaguars are dumb to stick with Gabbert.

**Mav** · 09-09-2013, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

I hate fools gold. Justin Blackmon didn't even play and I wonder if Chad Henne would have played better than Gabbert? I'm sure he would have because the Jaguars are dumb to stick with Gabbert.

Its not fools gold. what difference was Blackmon going to make when the Chiefs were always in the Jags backfield? The Chiefs front 7 is among the best in football right now. The Cowboys are about to find out what the jags did.

Bob Sutton was given a Ferrari to drive, and that most of the stuff the Chiefs did yesterday, was basic.

Wait until they start unloading the corner blitzes, and bringing Berry.

This is a really good defense.

Rasputin · 09-09-2013, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

Its not fools gold. what difference was Blackmon going to make when the Chiefs were always in the Jags backfield? The Chiefs front 7 is among the best in football right now. The Cowboys are about to find out what the jags did.

Bob Sutton was given a Ferrari to drive, and that most of the stuff the Chiefs did yesterday, was basic.

Wait until they start unloading the corner blitzes, and bringing Berry.

This is a really good defense.

I like our defense I know it's going be good one. I want to see it up against a real offense. Jaguars were a joke.

**Lzen** · 09-09-2013, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

Its not fools gold. what difference was Blackmon going to make when the Chiefs were always in the Jags backfield? The Chiefs front 7 is among the best in football right now. The Cowboys are about to find out what the jags did.

Bob Sutton was given a Ferrari to drive, and that most of the stuff the Chiefs did yesterday, was basic.

Wait until they start unloading the corner blitzes, and bringing Berry.

This is a really good defense.

Uhhhh, yeah. They did bring Berry a few times.

**Mav** · 09-09-2013, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

I like our defense I know it's going be good one. I want to see it up against a real offense. Jaguars were a joke.

Yup. And you see what happened to that joke.

That joke is no longer funny.

The cowboys will do better obviously. Hard to keep that much talent down. But the Chiefs wont give up much. And definitely wont give the Boys 6 turnovers.

**Lzen** · 09-09-2013, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

Their oline is awful. And the Giants d line got pressure quite regularly on Romo. The Chiefs are better in the secondary and at linebacker than the Giants.

Dez Bryant is also nicked up.

Tony Romo is going to be in for a rough day. The Chiefs aren't going to turn the ball over 6 times.

I didn't see that whole game, but I saw a lot of the first half and noticed that the Giants were not really getting much pressure on Romo other than that QB sandwich on that one play. Not sure what game you were watching.

**Mav** · 09-09-2013, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen

Uhhhh, yeah. They did bring Berry a few times.

Didn't see it. Sorry. Thanks for the correction.

**Mav** · 09-09-2013, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen

I didn't see that whole game, but I saw a lot of the first half and noticed that the Giants were not really getting much pressure on Romo other than that QB sandwich on that one play. Not sure what game you were watching.

They got a lot of pressure on him in the second half.

Nothing in the first. But in the second they hit him a lot.

Mother****erJones · 09-09-2013, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

I hate fools gold. Justin Blackmon didn't even play and I wonder if Chad Henne would have played better than Gabbert? I'm sure he would have because the Jaguars are dumb to stick with Gabbert.

Agree but we play who we play. No control over it. I think if they had Lewis, Henne and Blackmon in it would've been closer. But they weren't so...

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09-08-2013, 10:28 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Late night bullshit: breaking down the tape on our defense. Just random thoughts on multiple viewings of our defensive snaps: * During the first half (and the first half of the third quarter) the Chiefs were a fantastic, totally modern assortment of how they preferred to line up their DL. They played Poe 90% of the time, and they played him at nose and end. They played DeVito like 70%, and they played him at nose occasionally. They played Tyson Jackson about 70% of the time, and played him at both end positions. Catapano is our rotational guy. * Catapano got some great snaps in, and looks incredibly promising -- a guy who was initially brought in as an OLB, but was insanely strong so the staff was like ** it, we have no depth at DE, let's try him out there. Not only does he give you extra athleticism, but the guy is stout as a mother*er against the run. You cannot run against the Chiefs. Let me say that again: you cannot run against the Chiefs. Jackson and DeVito are already incredibly good against the run, and Poe has finally developed to be perhaps the best of the bunch. Catapano has proven himself adept as well. Houston, Berry, Jordan, and DJ all serve their roles brilliantly in plugging gaps. * That's probably the biggest difference between the Chiefs defense under Herm, Haley, and Crennel, compared to Reid. Under Reid (i.e. Bob Sutton), the Chiefs' gap integrity has so far been unrivaled. The entire defense moves as a singular cohesive unit. Poe is commanding double- and triple-teams, Jackson and DeVito are owning tackles, Houston and Hali are cutting off the edges, and Jordan, Johnson, and Berry are plugging gaps brilliantly. * There are so many brilliant talents on this defense, but the emotional tone setters are clearly Hali and Flowers. Poe, Houston, Johnson, Berry, and all the others are very talented, but the emotional leaders on this defense right now are Hali and Flowers, and it looks like Berry is about a season or so away from getting there as well. Hali's hustle spreads like a virus across this defense, and you can see his pursuit borne out in Houston, DJ, Berry, Poe, and Jackson. * Poe... what else can be said about this guy. His play today suggests he could keep developing to become the best DT this team has had since the franchise's Super Bowl days. There is only so much you can do against an all-muscle 330 lbs that's faster than most offensive lineman and stronger than most offensive lineman. You can tell his technique is developing, and the Chiefs are throwing him into all kinds of twists and stunts to create mismatches. My favorite play was probably his combined sack with Eric Berry. * Eric Berry is being played like a linebacker, and against the Jags he played roughly 10% of his snaps at the line of scrimmage. His coverage has improved but the very best part of Berry's game: he is unblockable. Sending out offensive lineman to block him is a fool's errand. He sheds blocks like nobody's business. * The Chiefs stuffed the box against the Jags -- they did more than stuff the box, they stuffed the line of scrimmage. So many times they lined up 7 guys along the line of scrimmage, some of them dropping back and some of them rushing. I still don't like Hali dropping back. Houston is money in coverage, though. He was on the field for every defensive snap because he is so ***ing versatile. Great game from Kendrick Lewis, too. Played very aggressive, lots of snaps up against the line of scrimmage. The Chiefs are treating Lewis as the FS and Berry as more of the SS, but they are mixing Lewis up all over the field, treating him as more of a hybrid between the safeties, while Berry is part-timing as a linebacker. * If Jackson can rack up a half dozen sacks while being rock solid against the run, we should seriously work our ass off to resign him this offseason. He will be as close to that guy we drafted #3 overall as anything else we could possibly bring in. * This defense has the talent and the defensive coordinator to be a Top 5 defense. It's definitely a Top 10 defense. The Cowboys game will be a phenomenal challenge, as Romo will willingly challenge our corners more aggressively, and Sean Smith, Husain Abdullah, and Quentin Demps will be challenged far more frequently. We can still be exposed in the passing game: Hali will have a bear of a time against Tyron Smith, but Houston and Poe should pave a path to Romo that Berry and DJ can follow. But if that passrush doesn't come as quickly as it needs to, then Sean Smith can get exposed if he's not on his game, which he all-too-frequently isn't. I don't fear any of Dallas' tertiary receivers against our nickel- and dime-backs, but I do fear Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, and Jason Witten against Sean Smith, Brandon Flowers, and Eric Berry. But the Cowboys will not run on the Chiefs. Nobody will, this year.
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