Are you drug tested at work?

[Skip Towne]

Which drugs do they test for? How often?

[Lzen]

Or perhaps I could ask another type of question. Have you ever driven a vehicle after you had more than whatever the legal limit (one beer) of alcohol?

Or have you ever torn that tag off your matress?

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Out of curiosity, when the posted speed limit is 55 (or insert any speed here), do you drive that speed or under? Now don't lie. Tell me the honest truth.

And do you wear your seatbelt.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

First of all your not going to get the best of the best because they already have their own companies. Secondly I disagree that your getting the next tier either, especially with sales people. If were talking about regular labor type jobs it just doesn't matter. It's too easy to hire and fire those types I'll just evaluate their performance.

Not everyone goes out and starts their own company to have a successful career. The notion that all the good employees do that is naive. There are a lot of excellent jobs working for someone else. Sales is a perfect example. I'm not sure why you think I won't get good salesmen if I drug test. My experience tells me otherwise.

And I'll disagree on laborers as well. In fact, laborers is probably one area where drug testing pays off the most. If you get responsible people, you don't have to constantly be replacing them. It's not like every guy out there that works hard for a living is some job hopping good-for-nothing. If you think it's easy to find good laborers, then things are much different where you live.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Out of curiosity, when the posted speed limit is 55 (or insert any speed here), do you drive that speed or under? Now don't lie. Tell me the honest truth.

I speed most of the time.

Now it's my turn. Would you rather find out your kid speeds or smokes pot?

[BIG_DADDY]

Frankly I would find someone that obeys all laws to be a very boring person and the last one I would want to work with. There are so many stupid laws now you really have to pick through them.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by jspchief

I speed most of the time.

Now it's my turn. Would you rather find out your kid speeds or smokes pot?

Now your picking and choosing what laws you want to obey.


I don't know what kind of sales people your hiring but in health clubs if they had drug tested they would have lost more than half of their top sales people.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Or perhaps I could ask another type of question. Have you ever driven a vehicle after you had more than whatever the legal limit (one beer) of alcohol?

Or have you ever torn that tag off your matress?

Companies use criminal records in the hiring process as well. There are a lot of jobs you won't get if you have a DUI on your record.

As far as mattresses, that law only applies to retailers selling mattresses. As soon as I buy it, I can do whatever the hell I want with the tags. Not to mention the clear difference between that and doing drugs.

[Skip Towne]

Originally Posted by jspchief

I speed most of the time.

Now it's my turn. Would you rather find out your kid speeds or smokes pot?

I wouldn't hire you. You have proved you are a lawbreaker and are probably not trustworthy.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Now your picking and choosing what laws you want to obey.

I'm picking and choosing who I want to hire. Plain and simple. If you want to work for me, don't do drugs. It's that simple.

I don't think speeding and doing drugs are equal, so it's not a relevant point.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by jspchief

Not everyone goes out and starts their own company to have a successful career. The notion that all the good employees do that is naive. .

You didn't say good you said the best of the best. Bottom line is if you have a great employee why would you risk losing them over a stupid piss test?

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by Skip Towne

I wouldn't hire you. You have proved you are a lawbreaker and are probably not trustworthy.

Good thing I'm not applying.

If the point you're trying to make is that my criteria for hiring isn't equally applied to all laws, you're right.

I don't have to be equal, or fair. All I have to do is obey the equal opportunity and anti-discrimination laws. After that, I can set whatever criteria I want. And if I decide that I don't want drug users working for me, that's perfectly within my rights.

[Skip Towne]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

You didn't say good you said the best of the best. Bottom line is if you have a great employee why would you risk losing them over a stupid piss test?

Don't be ridiculous, piss is more important than performance.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

You didn't say good you said the best of the best. Bottom line is if you have a great employee why would you risk losing them over a stupid piss test?

If I had a good employee, I would give him a chance to clean his act up. If he still chooses drugs over his job, then he's not a good employee.

I've been around drugs enough to know that I don't want drug users working for me. Especially if they don't value the job enough to quit doing drugs.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by Skip Towne

Don't be ridiculous, piss is more important than performance.

Don't be ridiculous, getting high is more important than keeping your job...

[RedNFeisty]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

I wasn't even talking about dogs you ****ing tard. We were talking about legisaltion being passed to make testing mandatory. Try an pay attention next time.

Look needle dick; don't start your third grade name calling on me. I made an observation and said it. The truth is that you have been crying like a little pussy and it only got worse when they started the ban on pitt bulls. Grow a sack.