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Old 09-02-2006, 09:43 AM  
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Lions release Rogers
LIONS RELEASE ROGERS

The Detroit Lions have parted ways with receiver Charles Rogers, the No. 2 overall pick in the 2003 draft.

Rogers missed most of his first two seasons due to broken collar bones, and was ineffective in 2004, during which he was suspended four games for violation of the league's substance abuse policy. After the suspension, the team filed a grievance against Rogers for recovery of bonus money. The grievance is still pending.

Prior to the 2003 draft, there were reports that Rogers had generated a positive drug test due to a diluted urine sample. The news didn't deter the Lions and team president Matt Millen.

Other cuts include veteran running back Artose Pinner, linebacker James Davis, and rookie sixth-round CB Dee McCann.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:43 PM   #136
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Of course. Charles Rogers has shown so much talent at the NFL level. How could we ever have doubted him?



Thank you, Captain Obvious.
He asked me a question about Sylvester Morris not being around anymore WTF do you want me to say? "I'm sorry you are a moron for asking me that I'm not even going to explain it".
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:43 PM   #137
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Free? Rogers is going to play for free? Hell, bring him on.
Agreed. If he will play for free, bring him in for the PS.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:44 PM   #138
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Ryan Leaf had all those crazy physical skills too. That is far from a silly argument. There's a lot more to playing football than having great physical skills. I said I'm all for bringing him in for a workout to see what he looks like, I don't know what more you could ask for. I don't think we should blindly sign him, but he's worth a look. Doesn't mean he'll amount to anything, but there's a big difference from "can't hurt" to "championship move".
I don't think Rogers has near the emotional issues Leaf had.....I haven't seen him scream at camera men and be restrained by his teammates.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:44 PM   #139
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WTF do you want me to say?
How about "Charles Rogers is a lazy injury-prone pothead who hasn't proved a damn thing in the NFL"?

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I don't think Rogers has near the emotional issues Leaf had.....I haven't seen him scream at camera men and be restrained by his teammates.
Once again- Charles Rogers <= Todd Marinovich.
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How about "Charles Rogers is a lazy injury-prone pothead who hasn't proved a damn thing in the NFL"?
I forgot man the Chiefs are by far the best and most talented team in the NFL......we don't need any help, we don't need to look at any players that may possibly help us out.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:46 PM   #141
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So at 25 years old his talent has evaporated? I'm gonna call BS on that.

I'm saying he either doesn't have the talent to play at this level, the smarts to play at this level, or the desire to play at this level.

See:

Ryan Leaf
Curtis Enis
Tony Mandarich
Tim Couch

This list goes on.

Some guys just aren't cut out for the NFL.

Guys like Rogers and the guys on the list above all come into the NFL thinking that they don't have to bust their asses, because they were the shit in college.

And because of that, in addition to a lack of talent, desire and/or smarts, they're all out of the league......
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I forgot man the Chiefs are by far the best and most talented team in the NFL......we don't need any help, we don't need to look at any players that may possibly help us out.
Just keep pounding that false choice, and maybe someone else around here will back you up on it.

How many times are you going to claim that just because I don't want that POS=I don't want to ever "look at any players that may possibly help us out".
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I'm saying he either doesn't have the talent to play at this level, the smarts to play at this level, or the desire to play at this level.

See:

Ryan Leaf
Curtis Enis
Tony Mandarich
Tim Couch

This list goes on.

Some guys just aren't cut out for the NFL.

Guys like Rogers and the guys on the list above all come into the NFL thinking that they don't have to bust their asses, because they were the shit in college.

And because of that, in addition to a lack of talent, desire and/or smarts, they're all out of the league......
Are you one of those people that would tell me Terrell Owens isn't a great player too?
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:48 PM   #144
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Just keep pounding that false choice, and maybe someone else around here will back you up on it. How many times are you going to claim that just because I don't want that POS=I don't want to ever "look at any players that may possibly help us out".
Give me your suggestion at WR then because that is the position we need the most help at........are you going to give me a great suggestion like Darius Watts who can't catch a cold?
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That's the thing we have 0 to lose in signing him yet some people don't want him anyway. That would be like someone handing you a bunch of free lottery tickets and you going "I don't want them pieces of shit won't get anything anyway"
No. A better example would be you have no money (no free roster spots) and a 1990 Ford Escort with 200,000 miles on it. It still runs, but it's far from a nice car. Someone offers you a Ferrari with a shitload of problems with it and says "I'll trade you cars. If you can get the car to work, then congratulations."

So say you trade cars and you can't get the Ferrari to work. You have no car.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:51 PM   #146
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I don't think Rogers has near the emotional issues Leaf had.....I haven't seen him scream at camera men and be restrained by his teammates.
Well, no, but Rogers obviously hasn't put forth the effort needed to succeed yet. He wouldn't be on market if he did. Maybe he can find it, but he obviously hasn't done things right.
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Give me your suggestion at WR then because that is the position we need the most help at........are you going to give me a great suggestion like Darius Watts who can't catch a cold?
Joiner, Solari, and Edwards don't seem to be in a rush to pick up a WR. Maybe they know a little more about the situation we're in than you do.
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Give me your suggestion at WR then because that is the position we need the most help at........are you going to give me a great suggestion like Darius Watts who can't catch a cold?
Darius Watts has proven as much at the NFL level as Charles Rogers has.

That said, I wouldn't want either.

Get this through your skull. Every team has a few weak spots, including KC. If we HAVE to sign someone as a fifth WR, I'd much rather take a chance on someone like Todd Pinkston who has at least shown a little something more than "potential" at this level.

You like him, I don't. By all means, continue your wanking over Mr. Rogers.
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Well, no, but Rogers obviously hasn't put forth the effort needed to succeed yet. He wouldn't be on market if he did. Maybe he can find it, but he obviously hasn't done things right.
I agree with that, that is why he is available. I see no harm in seeing if we can turn him around and having a steal there. If it doesn't work out then you let him go, no harm for trying.
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Darius Watts has proven as much at the NFL level as Charles Rogers.

Get this through your skull. Every team has a few weak spots, including KC. If we HAVE to sign someone at WR, I'd much rather take a chance on someone like Todd Pinkston who has at least shown a little something more than "potential" at this level.
Hell, an unwanted vet would be better than Watts
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