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Old 11-12-2007, 11:40 PM  
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You know what the best part of Kansas and Missouri having their best ever seasons at the very same time is? The entire nation will get exposed to what is possibly the most bitter and hateful rivalry in the country in all it's glory (or shame, if you prefer). You can have your Ohio State v. Michigan or Alabama v. Auburn, but the last time I checked nobody from Columbus ever went to Ann Arbor and systematically executed every man they could find while burning the town to the ground. And certainly nobody made t-shirts later celebrating that fact.

But that did happen in 1863 in Lawrence, KS when William Quantrill led his band of "Bushwackers" to the "Jayhawker" stronghold and went on a 4 hour rampage that would become known as the "Lawrence Massacre" - one of the ugliest episodes of the brutal 10+ years of fighting along the Kansas and Missouri border. While the Civil War has become the South v. the North in most people's minds, the fighting in fact began as a violent guerrilla conflict between the abolitionists in Kansas and the slave holding Missouri settlers (more or less, like many guerrilla campaigns there were quite blurred lines at times). In many ways, those old wounds have never quite healed - Grandpa Simpson will be be deep in the cold, cold ground before he recognizes Missour-ah as a state, for example.

Those t-shirts seen above that some Missouri fans are making for the showdown at Arrowhead in two weeks are celebrating the Lawrence Massacre and in fact have Quantrill's visage and slogan emblazoned on the back - "Raise the Black Flag and Ride Hard Boys. Our Cause is Just and Our Enemies Many". Talk about going straight past normal levels of fan behavior and making a hard right turn into loony land, that might be the single most offensive gameday t-shirt I've ever seen. Kansas fans are now responding with t-shirts sporting noted violent Kansas abolitionist John Brown (who led a massacre of his own and the 1859 Harper's Ferry raid that really kicked off the Civil War powder keg) with the slogan "Keeping America Safe From Missouri Since 1854" - a mock-up of those t-shirts can be seen here.

This game is going to be played on a neutral site at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City - home to huge parking lots for tailgating and beer sales in the stadium during the game. It's going to be for a berth in the Big XII Championship Game at the very least, and a shot at the National Championship at the most. Liquored up fans sharing the same parking lots and stadium, some who are celebrating their history of brutal violence against each other? Two fanbases who hate each other, with the chance to not only continue their own dream season but also to end the chance of glory for their rivals? Yeah, no way that doesn't end up without at least a few folks in the slammer. It's going to be a fun Saturday for the KCPD and Jackson County Sheriffs.
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Old 11-13-2007, 06:29 PM   #136
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After careful consideration, Bob Dole is going to have to say that this whole t-shirt thing is all in very poor taste.

Anybody know where a guy could buy one of the Mizzou versions online?
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Old 11-13-2007, 06:34 PM   #137
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It is amazing I have to keep going back to this but KU has not played anyone. Their ranking is one that is based on a cream puff schedule. I give them credit for winning all their games but really take a look at the schedule and if you can tell me it is as difficult as Mizzou's I would be in disbelief.

Most of the Tiger fans I know while they respect the no losses that KU has feel that KUs ranking is based on nothing more then them not losing to teams they SHOULD beat. Your non con schedule was an embarasment. Not one school from a BCS conference even. Your conference scheduled perfectly aligned so you did not have to face Tech, Texas or OU. You have played the North schedule and I think we could both agree outside KU and MU non of the others teams is playing v very good ball this year.

Exposed as I used it is meant to show how a joke schedule can lead to a lofty ranking that is smoke and mirrors. Beat Mizzou and I will change my mind, until then it is what it is.
You're cute when you're angry. Don't be upset that AGAIN, KU is what you want to be. I would be angry too if I continually had to look up to MU in basketball & football. But, since we are safe......
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Old 11-13-2007, 06:37 PM   #138
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You're cute when you're angry. Don't be upset that AGAIN, KU is what you want to be. I would be angry too if I continually had to look up to MU in basketball & football. But, since we are safe......

Ahh there it is. KU fan talking about Basketball, just in case Mizzou beats you in Football you have your Basketball smack already working. Bravo!
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Old 11-13-2007, 06:40 PM   #139
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After careful consideration, Bob Dole is going to have to say that this whole t-shirt thing is all in very poor taste.

Anybody know where a guy could buy one of the Mizzou versions online?
I'm having a shirt custom made for the game. I'm sure it'll be a big hit with the beakers.
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Old 11-13-2007, 06:42 PM   #140
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Old 11-13-2007, 06:48 PM   #141
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:06 PM   #142
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After reading on some Missouri forums, I found out that only one shirt is confirmed to exist so far. It was made using an online custom t-shirt maker. I am sure however that some entrepreneurial youth will mass produce some.
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:07 PM   #143
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You can say they haven't been strong in the past 25 years, but you can't state they don't have a strong history based on some arbitrary number - most likely you're lifetime.
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:47 PM   #144
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Ahh there it is. KU fan talking about Basketball, just in case Mizzou beats you in Football you have your Basketball smack already working. Bravo!

You're funny.
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Old 11-13-2007, 08:13 PM   #145
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You know, I really don't see what all the fuss is about.
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You know, I really don't see what all the fuss is about.
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You are a bad, BAD man.
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Did you catch the user title? Nice BTW.
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Old 11-13-2007, 08:57 PM   #148
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:43 PM   #149
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Back in the 60's as a UCLA student there was a similar incident among UCLA/USC supporters. There were "FUCLA" shirts and also shirts denigrating USC (can't remember the exact slur). It turns out both shirts were made and sold by a guy from Kansas City (can't remember which side of state line he was from). True story-capitalism at work. He wasn't a student of either school-just trying to make a buck. One of the school papers had an article on it. Anyway it is just good that MU/KU fans have something to get excited about-it has been a while.
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